blueinvalencia

Was the Bojan "promotional" video a joke? He certainly can make a simple square pass

Morata would be mouth watering

Watched him in the Copa against my local club.He got arm across the face and went down like he'd been hit with a hammer,spent the rest of his time on the pitch complaining to the ref and trotting over to the bench for treatment for what was a red mark on the cheek.I think he is a big talent but, he'll really struggle with the physical nature of the Prem

The great Glen Keely must give him a run for his money.

it was physical attributes - personally I'd think that Vaughan could possibly have done both of those tonight.

Think we'd have to agree to differ there,for me Vaughn thrives on well place balls on the floor both of passes tonight were played up to Vic in unthreatening positions with his back to goal and his power and balance turned them into goals.

For a 19 year old Victor showed tonight what he capable of.People have said in this thread he spends too much time on his backside but as shown tonight he only goes over where it matters.When he has a sight of goal he can stay on his feet. No other striker on our books has the all round talent to do what he did tonight.

Good come from behind win for the team that might prove to be our biggest test

anichebe isn't a good target man...at all. vaughan isn't lightweight he's fairly strogn and puts himself about . anichebe isn't the best striker

Anichebe isn't a good target man? Can you name one on the books who's better?

Vaughn isn't lightweight he's fairly strong and puts himself about.True but sadly for him his aggresive style normally lands him on the treatment table.Just look at his fitness record over the last few seasons.

Vic has scored 2 goals this season same as Yak.1 more than Aj 2 more than Vaughny.If you count pace, ability to find the net,strength and a good fitness record for me he is the most effective at the club now and maybe in 2 or 3 years he may be mentioned along with Drogba

Give me an Vaughan/Owen/AJ type player every day of the week over someone like Anichebe. Be a hell of a player? I very much doubt it. You're right that his style of play does take longer to perfect but how can a 19 year old lad be knackered after 10mins of football? His fitness levels are absolutely atrocious for someone of his age. Let's face it he's never going to be above Vaughan, Cahill, AJ in the pecking order. He's hot a chance of being ahead of Yak if he doesn't improve and Faddy if he doesnt become more consistent. Also in the next few years Jutkiewiscz and Baxter should come through who already looks better than him. Anichebe is no better than Emile Heskey.

Important yes, but just because he's the only one of his type at this club doesnt mean he's our best striker. All of our other strikers are streets ahead of him right now in terms of all round ability, I wouldn't play him ahead of anyone.

If you rate him only as good as Heskey now and he's still not 20 that will do me.Never above AJ Tim and Vaughn? with their fitness records only time will tell. I must admit like you I do prefer to watch that type of player,but they are all like highly bred racehorses and spend more time on the treatment table than on the pitch.So for me until Moyse has a head transplant and stops Neville Stubbs and Hibbo hoofing it every chance they get Vics my first choice.

Let's be realistic, a target man who can hold the ball up is not the be all and end all of success. Do Barcelona have an Anichebe. Drogba (how you can compare them is beyond me) target man? Manure? etc etc. They manage just fine.

 

On another note, being able to hold the ball up does not make anyone the best striker at a club. I'd consider someone who can put the ball in the net a better striker than someone who'll score not very many but hold the ball up.

Your quite right Barca/ Manu dont have that type of player but they normaly tend to pass the ball thro midfield and keep the ball to relieve pressure not thump it long as we do.Didn't for a minute compare Vic to Drogba just pointed out that strenghth holding the ball up is important in todays game.And as for your last point I agree the ball in the net is main aim and I would say Vics goals per minutes on the park ratio this season is pretty good.

Can you point me in the direction of your dealer please mate? I want some of what you're on.

Come on lets be constructive! AJ with his back to goal just gets overpowered . Mac always turns down a blind alley.Vaugh is just too lightweight.Yak has a poor first touch.Vic is the only striker we have who holds the ball and has the strength to upset defenders,And if you don't think thats one of the key skills of the modern striker you haven't watched Drogba much.

ok mate

Do you think they do?

I'd Go with....

 

................ Wessels...................

 

Neville..... Yobo ...Jagielka .. Valente

 

Osman ....Anderson ...Graveson .. Pienaar

 

.............ANICHEBE.... LESCOTT..................

 

Lescott because he has been our best attacker over the last 4 or 5 games as well as the best defender.

 

Anybody ever heard or remember Fred Pickering.??

Saw his début v Forest, British record signing, balooned a couple of early chances and looked crap.Settled himself and scored a hatrick in a 4-1 win Strong typical English centre forward never really set the place alight as often as he should.

Best striker? Anichebe by a long way.In the modern game its so important to hold up the ball in forward areas to allow midfield to link up in attacking play or to relieve pressure when your under the cosh.AJ and Vaughn don't do this very well.Mac is poor at it and the Yak....................

that was the funniest thing i read all night ,thanks for that

Knew a lad Alan Wilson in the 70s played for the Blues (one game for the first team I think) Told us Bernie arrived for training one morning pissed wearing a ripped pullover,black eye carrying a half empty bottle of Ossy Whites.He certainly seemed a colourful character.Anybody know what happened to him after his return to Walsall? Would love to see him doing a guest spot on Sky Sports on Sat sitting next to Charlie Nicholas.

Now all the rumours are over (till Jan) I just wonder how many of all the players we have been linked with over the past month or so did we actually even enquire about never mind bid on.Did we place bids on Koumas? Smith? or were the players we signed the only ones we placed concrete bids for.other than the Fernandes debacle I think we did some of the Prem's best business

I'd go for Alan Biley

Are we talking skill factor or hairstyle?

For those of a certain age I propose...........ROD BELLFIT

In the fifties and early sixtees the Blues were sometimes refered to as the priests team.And in 65 when i had my first main stand season ticket i sat near to a group of three priests.

Like the rest I called him a right wonker when he missed that sitter.But after a couple of watches on MOTD his overall performance was quite impressive.Did well in the build up to all the goals and defended well from set pieces.Few more games like that may change a few peoples minds about him.

I cant remember the seccond one

Me too

And he thinks the first shot that hit the post was going in?

Couple of penalty shouts?

And he forgot to mentions these on MOTD

Was Hansen watching?

Taken from his BBC online column

Liverpool were a little unlucky at Goodison in that they had a couple of penalty shouts turned down and hit the woodwork twice but their overall performance was not great.

What a wa**er!

You're right but hitting the post twice IS bad luck.

Wasn't it Shankley who said "hitting the post is the same as hitting the corner flag you get nothing for either of them"

So what use  was this supposed "First option" we had on him if he left Real?

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Silly wages

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At least 2 meaningless medals per year = No contest