Blue75

Actually, I apologise. It was mimmicking my post earlier. And I don't know why I said that to the other poster. Sorry lads.

Well why don't people discuss the points rather than make cocky comments? Surely that's what a discussion forum is all about? I don't expect people to agree with me, I don't agree with everyone else, but surely you need to have some kind of retort in the form of an opinion if your going to criticise other people's opinions.

Hang on a second, you started in with a flippant comment, I just came back. I left one forum because people jumped on you for having an opinion, but not really contributing to the discussion. In this instance how about saying why BK is doing well for Everton, I'm all happy to have a discussion about it. But facts are facts, and you can't argue with the fact that in 9 years Bill Kenwright has done very little to improve this club.

Different forum, same fans.

Oh dear.

Neither has Arteta, in fact I would say he's been a bag of shite.

I feel they moved heaven and earth to tie up Arteta who's been as useful as Preki, yet Pienaar they wouldn't budge. If it's because we have no money, well then that is also a problem, and clearly a bigger problem.

Meaning that we have had opportunities to give him a new contract, but haven't done. The money we spent on Billy could have been put to better use.

Ok if it wasn't for the team pulling the club through the mire, we are still on a rugged path to nowhere. How many more years can we put up with Kenwright and his inabilities? Hate to point the finger at him, but he is the owner of the club, and therefore the buck stops with him. Kings Dock The Nyarko balls up The Rooney £50m valuation lie Pienaar being allowed to leave for nothing Then there is the 24/7 claims of looking for investment from the day he took over, 12 years ago. Thats 105,120 hours of searching. I'm sorry but that's just not adding up for me. And right now. Unable to strengthen the side for even loan players. I mean what the hell is going on. It's embarassing and to be honest we may as well not have signed the likes of Fellaini, and Rodwell is one good season away from becoming a United player. Kopites don't put up with it, why the hell do we?

Its all very true. But to lay it on the line here, I don't believe in keeping the peace if I feel passionate about something. In other words if I feel that the club, players or manager have done wrong by me, or not doing enough - then I will say so. Likewise if they are doing well I will also say so.

To be honest I would prefer Moyes to spend wisely on players like this then waste it on players like Billy who he clearly had no real clue about, but felt he had to spend the money.

Not one of the two I mentioned. Sorry don't really want to get that bogged down with it. Some good lads on there, but some right clowns also.

I was a member of another forum (not NSNO or BK), but felt it was missing many of the important points about Everton and was concentrating more on not rocking the boat, rather than getting down to the nuts and bolts of why we are all Everton fans. So I left and here I am here. Different name too.