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#1 Josh Berno

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Posted 22 Nov 2007 - 20:38


What bolocks I dont think Everton could ever fill 75,000 seats in this era anyway let alone in Kirkby. The future is dark for Everton Comercially and Financially and we will all point the finger at BK and KW.
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#2 GoldfishMemory


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Posted 23 Nov 2007 - 08:08

This is just his line of attack to rubbish all offers from LCC without even hearing them out first!
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#3 StevO


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Posted 23 Nov 2007 - 12:34

hes full of shit, we'll be in trouble big time by the time we get there
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Posted 24 Nov 2007 - 19:01

55,000 would be fantastic. 75,000??? Don't make me laugh. Pathetic effort to stop all other plans.
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Posted 04 Dec 2007 - 20:53

I found some more information on the Kirkby transport problems - http://www.knowsley....nsportoct07.pdf

3.64 In the case of a football stadium, there are likely to be significant differences between
any existing location and Kirkby. Any knowledge of the current spectator travel
behaviour, although interesting, is unlikely to accurately reflect future spectator travel
to Kirkby. Indeed the transport strategy for the stadium should be bespoke, highly
focused at sustainable modes of travel, flexible and enforceable, and not governed
unduly by historical travel behaviour.

3.65 Nonetheless, surveys of the existing travel behaviour of supporters would be useful.
This information would show the scale of any proposed changes in modal use and as
such act as a comparative for the bespoke transport strategy for Kirkby. It would also
provide an indication of the number of vehicles already on the trunk road network, and
therefore allow an estimate to be made as to the level of any “new” and “diverted”
vehicular trips.

3.66 The above information should be supplemented by data from other similar football
clubs (e.g. English Premiership), with comparable locations and transport links. The
travel characteristics of Reading FC supporters (Madjeski Stadium) and perhaps
Bolton FC (Reebok Stadium) may be appropriate and should be examined further. For
example, most trips made to the Madjeski Stadium are car based (71%) but bus trips
are also high (21%). Madjeski Stadium is currently applying for planning permission
to increase their capacity from 24,500 seats to 36,900 seats. The transport strategy for

3.83 The local train services must be considered with respect to frequency, journey times,
carriage capacity, and proposed and committed enhancements. It is likely that the
frequency and number of carriages will need to be increased albeit that such capacity
enhancements are limited by the availability of carriages and the single track. This will
need to be discussed with Mersey Rail and Northern Lines. A review will need to be
undertaken on the linkages to the site for people travelling on from the train station by
bus, taxis, walking and cycling

3.84 The local bus services will need to be considered in light of frequency, journey times,
capacity, and proposed and committed developments. Where necessary, additional
services will have to be provided and passenger facilities enhanced. In particular it
will be necessary to commission buses to transport spectators from surrounding areas
IPS Transport Report to a stadium. GIS should be utilised to assist in identifying the key origin locations.

3.91 For a stadium the impact of spectators, particularly at the end of an event, will require
reporting within the TA. Retaining visitors in a stadium after a match is an excellent
way of spreading the demand post match, and thus reducing the peak impact on all
transport networks. Exclusive post match interviews and reduced cost drink and food
specials are good examples of stadium retention measures and these and others may be
included in the Stadium Travel Plan. Crowd management measures may also reduce
the impact on the local transport networks and the initial proposals should be set out in
the Local Area Management Plan.
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