Sandman

i dont actually think hibbo was that bad today, i know he has been in other games but today there was far worse. osman, neville, johnson, anichebe, jagielka for starters.

is that we give the ball away so easily. you look at other top half teams and you have to go and win the ball off them, but with us, you just have to wait for a mistake, you dont even have to tackle, just stand near hibbert/neville/osman etc and you are sure to get the ball. needs to be solved, and quickly, or we will be very low in the table and in no competitions by christmas.

come on we will never smash anyone anywhere. we might get a scrappy 1-0 or 2-1 win over them, but it is unlikely to be convincing.

why the fuck are we so unimaginative? we hoof, if that doesnt work we... hoof again. just so pissed off, we are so one dimensional without arteta. even then we look pretty average.

omg yakubu sounds lazy again. and osman is just hopeless, we need better in january.

why the fuck doesnt he ever bring off the shit useless cocksuckers like neville at half time?? what does neville do to merit his inclusion in the starting XI every week, let alone stay as captain??

i hate phil neville. dont care if it was his fault, i hate him anyway, he is a fucking joke.

its on radio city if you have digital. but dont worry, youre not missing anything.

the bit ive listened to sounds like hibbo and aj are playin ok but barry is completely controlling the midfield.

I'd pick Yakubu every time. I don't rate Anichebe in the slightest, in fact I'd rather play Hibbo upfront ahead of him.

Now if you were to do it between Yak and Vaughan, that would be a much tougher choice and something I'd have to give some thought to.

anichebe does have his uses, he is strong (if a bit rash), holds the ball up and ok in the air. as we saw against metalist, he gets fouled in the area a lot, think he won a couple of pens last season too. his main problem is his first touch is dreadful.

its ok, i liked the one we wore against villareal and bucharest better though.

oh yeah loads of spanish players just have their surnames (baraja, marchena, albelda, casillas, arteta, valeron, canizares, helguera). Arteta also just has a standard look, hope he actually looks like him on fifa 08.

rammstein - sehnsucht

maybe a scrappy, boring 1-0 win to us... though probably 1-1 the way we've been playing <_<

well he must be feeling like shit. i was as annoyed as anyone last night but we all need to get off his back or its just gonna be beattie all over again.

i never thought id say this, but i wish vdm would have played last nite. he can actually use a ball

the problem is yak has been taken off in all 3 games up til now. maybe his stamina isnt good enough yet.

This is going to be only post in this thread, because I think I'll get pissed off and start smashing things if I have to think about last night again.

 

WTF was Moyes thinking? Is he clueless? Playing Carsley ahead of Jagielka is suicidal, the twat spent all of his time ball watching and generally doing fuck all but go backwards. Why play the long ball? Moyes must be telling them to do it, theres just no other explanation for it. It played right into their hands. They knew how to pass the ball, and do you know what else? They did it with style and pace. Two things we know absolutely nothing about. Why do we get the ball and stop it, then look about and then play it backwards? We never do anything with any speed, and it gives the opposition time to regroup. Also once again, our movement and support play were atrocious. Our players constantly stand about waiting for something to happen, rather than supporting the player with the ball and making something happen. Sort it out Moyes or people will lose faith in you, if they havn't already.

 

Four players I thought were especially poor - Carsley, Hibbert (do fuck off), Osman (was he even playing?), and Neville. One of them (Osman) can be a good player on his day, so I won't be too pissed with him. But the other three, LEAVE PLEASE. I can't really complain about Yakubu's performance really, he was having balls hoofed up to him that he just couldn't win and the only way for him to get the ball at his feet was to come INTO HIS OWN FUCKING HALF to get it off the defenders. That sets alarm bells ringing in my head, I don't know about anyone else. I can't complain with Faddy either, he was the only one who showed that he wanted to move forward with the ball at his feet. Yes, sometimes he lost the ball but he should be commended for having a go, not slaughtered. Lescott, I thought, had his worst game for us. He was all over the place IMO. Yobo was solid, and deserves a lot of praise. Baines was MOTM once again, superb lad, keep it up. Hibbert was caught ball watching time and time again when there were opposition players behind him. I felt like running on the pitch and murdering the stupid fuck. Surely even Blue4ever can't defend his performance last night?

 

I feel sorry for AJ, his only chances in the game, due to our ineptitude, were the penalties. Slots the first one home superbly, and then thanks to our own players being dickheads he has to retake it and misses. Cheers to all those who ran into the box, you fucked us over. He should never have taken the penalty right at the end of the game, Mcfadden probably should have had it or anyone that can take a penalty really.

 

Congrats must go to Metallist, you outplayed us last night (even with 9 men). You showed us how to play football. Maybe we should approach your manager to give Moyes some tips on how to create an attacking team who have a bit of style about them.

agree with most of that, including the bit about osman, he has on and off days, but neville carsley and hibbert are shit week in week out, but still moyes plays them. we have better in those positions now. for a period last season it looked as though hibbert had been dropped. why has he returned to the first XI?

i must disagree about yakubu though, i know his service wasnt brilliant to say the least but a good striker will really annoy the defenders all game, even without the ball. and all he did was stand there, he said he wanted to join everton because they were in europe, but i thought he looked awful lazy last night.

and i would have liked to see vdm too, but i dont think he's ever gonna get another chance now. moyes had vidarsson and jutkiewicz on the bench, that shows how much of a chance vdm is gonna get.

Because he's fucking Carsley while Pip sucks his balls? They have to be doing something for him to be continuously played when they're shite. Hibberts probably licking his arsehole as well.

is kind of a disgusting thought though :sick02:

Carsley did fuck all?? Wasnt it he that ran into the box causing the 1st pen to be disallowed? Good old Carsley.

 

Or was it Osman? I'm confused!

 

Somewhere else it said Anichebe. Can someone tell me because I dont feel like watching it again.

i dunno i heard it was mcfadden first, then heard it was anichebe.... i think it was a few of them.

okay i'm going to have a go at ratings, and i am REALLY pissed off so they arent gonna be kind.

wessels - 6. didnt have many clear saves to make.

hibbert - 1. fucking joke, doubt any other prem team would play him.

yobo - 8. one of the few who impressed today, thought he looked solid.

lescott - 4. besides the goal suprisingly shaky.

baines - 8. the only other player who performed.

osman - 5. ineffective.

neville - 1. is he paying moyes to play him? how can moyes not see that he is complete shite?

carsley - 1. did fuck all, let the metalist midfield walk all over him.

mcfadden - 2. shit. we must have a different mcfadden than the one scotland get.

yakubu - 1. lazy bastard, doubt he touched the ball more than 5 times, didnt look interested.

johnson - 4. was having a good game til the pens. dont think i need to say more.

subs:

jagielka - 4. had little effect.

anichebe - 5. won the pens but his first touch isnt good.

some serious deals need to be done in january, the midfield is way too weak, we looked like a fucking joke.

so who's going?

i know i am, paddock, down at the gladwys end

COYB!!!

and apparently AJ is 'furious' at being dropped.

http://football-forever.com/forum/showthre...5466#post425466

no mate,you are fickle,taken in by wyness an kenwrights spin,cant you see once we leave the city 10-20-30 years down the line all the kids in liverpool will support their local team the shite,we will be kirkby tesco rangers with a fan base in kirkby of 40,000,you whopper get real

oh yes I'M fickle, who is it who isnt going to go because of the stadium?

by playing neville in CM? thatll work lol

fade to black - metallica

Thank god I've just been to Tesco and was so wobbly I nearly ran about 3 people over with the trolley. And hell yeah the food was fab and all you could eat I would have been useless if the boat had sank even my life jacket wouldnt have kept me afloat

sounds fun