Svender33

But what about in the last two seasons!! Prior to 2008/2009 we had a reputation as the 1-0 specialists with signs of our football improving, therfore only our points haul would look impressive. I suspect the stat will be very different now. Moyes team is now superior playing more flowing football compared to then yet is actually less effective - why is that? I don't believe its the quality of player but Moyes choices, at the same time i'd be devastated to lose him - perhaps an new No.2 is needed which could be a lot more interesting discussion. Tacticaly: Coleman came in because we were short, not out of choice. Saha yak & beckford are all good enough to score regularly. The Baines/Piennar/Cahill was a Key threat which we can't go back too now. Bily is not a left winger yet needs more space & time. Arteta is playing sideways all the time and Anichebe hits the floor more than flicking-on the long ball. Is it time to go 4-3-3..? i.e. Baines, CB, CB, Neville/Coleman, Bily/Osman(MC), Heitinga(DMC), Arteta(MC), Saha/Osman/Bily(AML/SS), Saha/Beckford(CF), Rodwell/Coleman(AMR). Obviously you'd need to somehow unleash Baines - but wouldn't we be creating more chances/craft in the final Third?

Apart from Messi/Dixie D/etc... Whats you're preferred choice and order of the following strikers/forwards in terms of 'Goal-threat' on paper? Mine's: 1. Saha 2. Beckford 3. Yakubu 4. Fellaini 5. Baines 6. Cahill 7. Bilyanetdinov (Forget Vaughan & Anichebe - don't do it for me). Now in terms of how moyes plays it ( lone striker / defensive unit) I'd only make the following list: 1. Cahill 2. Saha Doesn't look good to me.

Good Post don't agree with all of it though, After the first 15mins Reading played very well with good tactics. The goal meant it became much easier fo them. Surely though when the opposition plays a pressing game that by packing our midfield leaves no space for the "better quality" to come out and no time or space for the team to exploit it?! Once the goal went in we were playing 11 vs 6 in their half - there was no space to run in to(never mind the players not runnig into space or wanting to feet)- and Baines & Neville where constantly pressed down the wings. Agree that we have been outfought & outthought. Start of the season we created chance after chance with piennar in a fluid 4-5-1 but we couldn't unluckily convert (Can't blame Yak for that). Now 4-5-1 just does not seem to work - Saying that though, I thought we only changed to a 4-4-2 after the break - did I miss something!?

Come on - its obvious! Name is 'Binman' obviously taking the piss! Posts like: Have Teams Like Bolton And Stoke Overtaken Us? & finally the sublime "quality players who would benefit our team" 8 being Notlobs!! King of semi-colons... king of wishful thinking more like.. Bolton are getting a lot better - however the real test will be how you keep you're up & coming players. starting with Elmander in the summer! To be fair though, it makes debates a bit more interesting then the usual oppositions thick as pig sh1te comments.

Arteta if he'd made one decent corner / set piece to any teammate . But he didn't . So felli . Hope that after piennar that we don't set a precedent though.... sh1t I vote for osman ... sublime footballer!

New young manager, relegation battlers, Europe battling, physical, battling attitude but good football and tactics. You can see the similarities to us some time ago but not now! We should be showing our qualities (arsenal/chelsea/man u/ city) yet we aren't. That's the question and one Moyes needs to answer truthfully. Tactically he's getting it wrong- end of. Coyle is looking good. Bolton deserve their position and efc clearly don't. It's the managers responsibility to play to teams strengths and Anichebe with anonymous Cahill wasn't it. Baines barely got in the game. We look tired and predictable whilst they looked in the ascendancy . Dripping confidence.

When kakuta sturridge vela & went on loan to likes of fulham, bolton, WBA and we didn't get a sniff of them. You've got to really question the manager and the board. I'd like to know who we looked at ... & why we didn't get them. Ramsey anyone ? Sturridge was class and we knew this prior to jan'11. Why didn't efc? Even though he was a cheating tw@t but it a winner! - maybe that's the difference because there were no 'winners' in royal blue tonight.