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Sorry, guess i'm just used to dealing with halfwits like hafnia and having to spoon feed and explain everything. I actually said, 'Essien is 3 times better than Fellaini in pretty much every department', and i 100% stand by that comment.

Well for one i disagree that Fellaini 'bossed' the Chelsea midfield. I find that rather laughable. Anyway Chelsea were pretty awful for the whole of last season. They had no clue who was playing where up front and on the wings and team changed constantly. There was no familiarity in the Chelsea team last season and no understanding through out the team. Shame Essien is out this season, i think Chelsea will be stronger and have a more settled team.

Neither of these players are in the team to score goals. If that's the best you can do, then give up now. Oh and please don't come back with the most predictable thing ever, as i have an answer waiting for that PS - Can i ask what is wrong with some of you in terms of putting capital letters for players names and our own club. Spullin and gramer mistakes are fine, but basic and obvious things like this? C'mon on.

I'm sorry, but this is getting ridiculous. They are now confirming, beyond any reasonable doubt that all they have is speculation and guess work. They are admitting they don't have anything solid and their only hope is to join forces with the media. The Media have a story, well blow me down, what next bread with butter? Does it mean that story is true, factual and backed up by solid proof? Of coure not. I hope The Peoples group and 'the media' print their bogus story and get sued to high heaven.

I didn't state it as fact. I just re-affirmed my opinion, and in my opinion he is 3 times better than Fellaini.

Essien is at least 3 times better than Fellaini at pretty much everything. I think the majority of football fans and pundits would agree. 'Show me Everton transfers under Moyes' was simply a time saving exercise as i was pretty sure someone would have already done it. It's called using what brain cells one has. You should try it sometime, although i think trying to engage one brain cell is easier than multiple. Then again, you do seem to dissprove that time and time again. Again you can't spell Everton with a capital E. You really need to check if you have spelt Everton correctly? By saying i have blinkered views shows you are far too stupid to understand anything i have said on this forum. I am anything but blinkered. One more time, for the cheap seats and the stupid amongst us, i deal in facts, not speculation, guess work, fables and propaganda. I know this will fly right over your head as you haven't got the capacity to understand what i am saying. I'm sure i do come across as patronising to you ! Pedantic? Dealing in the truth and what is known to have actually happened rather than speculation is pedantic? You are a complete waste of time and i will now be seeking out the ignore feature to make sure i don't have to read anymore of your stupid, mindless drivel. You are the perfect example of the 'supporter' this club could do without. Try actually SUPPORTING the club for a change instead of knocking it every chance you get. Oh and get your own opinion, stop copying and pasting someone else's. Show at least some capacity for independent thinking on your own behalf for gods sake.

I ignored the insidious drivel that masqueraded as an original piece in the local press; this all-too-predictable propaganda. Wow, what journalism, what insight, what a load of hypercritical and ironic nonsense that will be lapped up by the intellectually challenged amongst us and touted as 'Another piece that hammers home the failures', when it should read 'the exact same piece that is full of the same old speculation guess work, fables and made up crap' .

That's not a clue. You had to explain to me why you thought it was clue, so by your own definition it's not a clue. At least i give Everton a capital E. Since i have joined this forum, you have offered nothing in the way of debate, nothing in the way of forward thinking, nothing of any interest what so ever and simply rely on spouting crap other people have already spouted and making jokes that have a mental age of about 3. You are a huge waste of time and offer absolutely nothing. At least most of the others, despite disagreeing with me, have something to say for themselves and have managed to form their own opinions by themselves. Bet you've been in a few cults in your time eh.

I'm not the type to create time wasting, pointless little groups in order to promote fables and the made up i'm afraid. I'll leave that to the likes of you. Just hit me, it's summer holidays isn't it. Explains a lot.

Strangely enough i know a person who would fit the bill. Chief media advisor to Bobby Robson while he was Eng manager Worked with FIFA to develop sponsorship and advertising deals for many years Organised Euro 96 (got an OBE for it) Lost only to Adam Crozier in the voting for Chief Exec of the FA Was part of the winning Qatar 2022 World Cup bid, working directly for the royal family (all indoor air conditioned stadiums apparently that can be taken down and will be donated to other nations after the world cup) Runs a sports consultancy company that sources sponsorship and advertising for all manner of sports events around the globe. Trouble is he's a big Birmingham City fan

:lol: What a perfect example of propaganda :lol: Would you care to word that anymore in favor of YOU'RE OPINION. :lol:

Glad to see someone can actually enter into a debate and put forward ideas and show some actually thinking. I agree with you. Everton needs someone in the club at a high level who knows the business of sport/football inside out. I have a feeling Everton will claim they already have this, but i'm not sure who that would be. Shirt sponsor, i agree with your sentiments but i bet reality is somewhat different. I'm guessing there were not a q of large companies wanting to make the Everton kit. I'm guessing we took the best offer on the table. The same goes for Chang. We took the best offer on the table The Red Bull thing, well that's a very long story, but basically ask any Salzburg supporter about Red Bull. Red Bull don't tend to sponsor many things, they tend to own things and market the shit out of it. Have a read of this; After the takeover, Red Bull changed the club's name, management, and staff, declaring "this is a new club with no history." Red Bull initially claimed on the club website that the club was founded in 2005, but was ordered to remove this claim by the Austrian F.A. The new authority removed all trace of violet from the club logo and the team now play in the new colours of red and white, to the consternation of much of the club's traditional support.[1] A small pair of wings form the motif of the new club crest, displayed on the team jersey, in accordance with Red Bull's commercial slogan at the time: "It gives you wings." This complete rebranding of the team proved very similar to Red Bull's treatment of its two Formula One racing teams, Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso. However, Red Bull would not completely follow this precedent when it acquired the MetroStars club in Major League Soccer in the United States; while it rebranded the team as the New York Red Bulls, it chose to recognise the MetroStars' history. The traditional supporters tried to resist the radical changes and formed their own movement in order to regain some of the tradition. Several fan-clubs throughout Europe voiced their support in what they saw as a fight against the growing commercialisation of football. However, after five months of protests and talks between the club owners and traditional fans, no compromise was reached. On 15 September 2005, the "violet" supporters stated that the talks had irreversibly broken down and efforts to reach an agreement would be terminated. This gave rise to two separate fan groups: the "Red-Whites", who support "Red Bull Salzburg" and the "Violet-Whites", who want to preserve the 72-year-old tradition and refuse to support the rebranded club. The Violet-Whites ultimately formed a new club, SV Austria Salzburg. [ We could sell our club to red bull and then basically they would set up a brand new club. The problem with re-naming of the stadium, is who would want to sponsor a stadium that represents the past? It's only brand new, modern stadiums that attract naming rights, for obvious reasons. I am however in the firm ' sell the name of the stadium' camp if we can get good money for it.

If you don't care, and you don't want to read what i post, then why even look in this thread let alone comment consistently? Do as i say not as i do eh ! Speaks volumes about your mentality i'm afraid.

Grow up.

Thanks for that. Anyone adding up the total out and in in terms fo player numbers and money ?

I take it from the above you didn't understand my post.

Ah right, my bad. Although in my defence, it's not a rumor and i am asking if Everton looked at him I shall heed the advice in future !

Signed from Tranmere by B. Munich today for £600k that could rise to £1.8 million Source = sky sports Young, quick, talented, eye for goal, right price and right under our noses? I wonder if the club even considered him? Anyone know?

When you talk about 'increased tv money etc' do you not think it worthwhile to talk about increase in costs right across the board? It is far more costly to run a football club now, than it has ever been. Where does this compute on your thinking? Is the business side of running and maintaing a football club completely lost on you? Is it all about transfers? I'm glad our chairman doesn't think like you, or this club wouldn't exist. The FACTS remain, that this current board has handed money to our manager, enabling him to break our transfer record on three occasions. Which ever way you try and spin it, that's not bad for a club who doesn't have any money and doesn't give the manager any money, is it? Can someone provide the stats for players sold and players bought under Moyes. I think it would make for interesting reading. http://www.evertonfc.com/match/transfers.html

You haven't got the first clue that you are being hysterically hypercritical do you? The quotes anyone has posted are completely meaningless. How can you not understand this? On that part, i agree with you, useless shit. There has been no substantial evidence that can be proven beyond any reasonable doubt that shows anything the anti Kenwright bridge have spouted about him is true and factual. Nothing, not one thing. Therefore, in my eyes, a person is innocent until proven guilty. You lot cannot prove guilt. End of.

Apply the FACT that we have had to sell to buy, then explain to me about NET spend.

Yet you are unable to provide reasons to why it's useless shit, rendering it useful shit

Good interview, good answers by Ross - all seems pretty logical to me. I like the comment 'this board has broken the clubs transfer record quite a few times with Andy Johnson, Yakubu and Fellaini. Do a lot of our supporters forget this? Do they forget we spent £8-£9 million on Bilyaletdinov. Fine, we have had to sell to buy, but we have spent good money under this board and Moyes has had more money than most think if it was all added up.

That's just not going to happen and we know it. The reason we got him were down to his injury problems. Beckford i don't think is a top 10 premier league club striker. Smart move by Moyes as i think he'll move on for a couple of million soon to a Championship side, like Leicester, but we are pinning our hopes on him scoring goals consistently and Saha staying fit all season, then i'm afraid our hopes will be dashed.

We have no idea to what part Kenwright played in the previous regime. If Johnson did things kenwright was opposed to, then it's hardly fair to tarnish him with the same brush as Johnson. He might however had a lot to do with influence in the previous regime. Again, we don't know, so i will not say someone is guilty when there is no evidence to prove that. The fact remains that Kenwright either needs to sell the club (there are no buyers) or hand over the reigns to someone more able to move the club forward until such times as a sale of the club could be made. So which person does Kenwright hand the reigns over to drive this club forward? I haven't got any answers to that, do you?