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that was such poor defending

there's no right or wrong answer, all I'd add is I think Pienaar was quality for us and relatively consistent with it. Disappointed he's left, but I'm largely disappointed by modern football (mainly the financial/business side) so I'm not surprised by anything that happens these days!! (*ends old man rant*

5m plus pav? seriously? for a 33 year old with 18 months of a contract left and a player with 6 months left? as romey said pav is a 10m striker no chance you can rate them two at the same price as him let alone 15million

i don't really think he is a £10m striker anymore, who would pay that? and ultimately if we don't want to sell (which Moyes has said he doesn't) we have to hold out for a good deal. Plus Spurs have already said they're looking to lighten their wage bill in this transfer window, so losing Pavlyuchenko would do that...

worryingly, Moyes seems to like Keane....would've taken this deal 3 years ago, but not now, Keane's past his best, does a lot of running around screaming and that's about it. If Neville & Pienaar both go, I'd want £5m plus a player - Pav would be great, maybe Walker/Naughton too?

if i am correct we used to have a sell on clause of 25%, however isnt that void now????

dunno, but if this story is to be believed, it could amount to a mere £1.25m if so!! http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/rooney-could-quit-united-for-only-1635m-2110324.html

EDIT: my maths isn't so good today!

quite interesting http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12040_6392909,00.html

not sure why but this quote slightly worries me... ""We set up this year to start the season very strongly and that was what I was expecting. So now I have to change things around very quickly."

lets just hope they don't have any thoughts over approaching Moyes!

my thoughts on this are mainly: -

1) it's really odd timing...

2) presumably he's not been given the future Milner, Young money....

3) if Liverpool had waited 4 weeks they'd've got the guy most fans wanted, for nothing

off to Blackburn so I read this morning, for £1.5m

Jags?

terrible first half....giving the ball away far too much, losing all the 50/50s....

hopefully a moyesey rollocking will stir things up at half time....wouldn't mind seeing the Yak at some point tonight, physically he should cause them a problem

i think this will be another one of those "great european nights" for everton - so prepare yourselves for a long night of tension!!

martin petrov to us on loan....rumour on bbc.

Everton: Howard, Hibbert, Baines, Bilyaletdinov, Jo, Distin, Cahill, Gosling, Pienaar, Fellaini, Coleman. Subs: Nash, Saha, Yakubu, Duffy, Agard, Baxter, Mustaf

FREE KICK....come on...

that Marney always scores against us

BBC Sport's chief football writer Phil McNulty: "Everton are making no comment at all on reports that their proposed ground move to Kirkby has been rejected. A bitter blow for chairman Bill Kenwright if true though."

i went for rodwell only because i remember him making a quality tackle in the first half. have blanked out the rest of the game pretty much.

pretty sure there's no replays in the league cup?

barely any in the FA cup nowadays!

i'm off to this tonight - most likely scenario is a defeat, but who knows.....if we can get Baines and Bily out there I reckon we'll pick up the win

Jimmy Nail!? Cool rating taken a serious knock there .

was waiting for someone to mention that haha - don't knock it! you've gotta take the rough with the smooth....

i bought a mahoosive hard drive to back everything up....just chuck it in the drawer and never use it for anything else!

i have a napster account now, so can download as much as i like (legally!) for £9.99 a month!

Greetings all - I always said I wouldn't do it, but I'm making the leap and selling off my cd collection bit by bit as I embrace the new digital world (that and I've got a wedding to pay for as I just got engaged!!)

Have a butchers, there's some bargains! sticking more on there tonight when i get in http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/shops/storefront/index.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P&sellerID=AVBAU7Z4J5CM4

i'm only keeping one cd single - Everton 95 FA cup Final - All Together Now - TUUUUUNE!

didn't think i'd be wishing we'd not let jacobsen go so soon into the season....

i should add to that previous post that F365 are usually complete and utter tw@s

everton sign heitinga for 6 mil who was described by f365 as

Everton target Johnny Heitinga was the Eredivisie's footballer of the year before moving to the Vicente Calderón from Ajax last summer. Now he plays like he's downed a bottle of pre-match Malibu and strapped on some roller skates.