GMorrison183
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Why does that mean we aren't going to get M'Bia?
I actually think it's even more reason to get M'Bia since we haven't spent a dime.
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For me it depends on the price tag.
If its around 8 mil, I'd like to sign him. Mainly because we'd get to move Arteta back to the center when Peanuts gets healthy.
Anything over 13? no thanks.
As Romey said, if he's at the game today than this is most likely BS.
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Well if we want to earn the "Midget Gems" nickname we could use another one before it becomes the "Midget Gem" after we sell everyone off
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No thanks. I wouldn't say he was better and I don't think he would be much cheaper
No to derrail the topic, but I don't understand why some people are so down on SWP. If he could be had for 8mil, why the heck not? He would definitely be in our starting 11 every game.
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I actually have been thinking ever since AJ moved on that he would be an excellent fit. A striker that can perform at an international level and also is strong enough to hold his own at the top of a 4-5-1.
Zigic, M'Bia, and Moutinho would put us in a pretty good position (although I still think we need an upgrade in the center of the park, Osman just doesn't offer enough defensively).
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panic stations, seriously. if any of the optimists still possibly think we'll be ok even if we dont have any new players, please come forward now with your reasoning, because i for one need convincing. the only tihing im looking forward to is the £200 getting knocked off season tickets in the cocacola championship.
anyone recon we can fill 50,000 seats in the lower leagues?
people will think im over reacting, but can anybody see this side (with no orthodox central midfielders what so ever) getting 40 points?
This side is still capable of getting 50 points in my opinion.
I think you're forgetting just how bad a team has to be to get under 40 points for a season. If our midfield ran "Baines--Jags---Neville---Osman" I'd still say we could hit 40 points (barely), it just would be some terrible football to watch. I actually bet after the terrible start we'd go through with that midfield Neville and Jags would start learning how to put some decent passes in on the ground when they realized just how much of a problem their hoof it play would be.
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In the Daily Star article it says Moutinho has expressed his desire to join us - is that true?
He has in the past, but not recently. I think all things regarding Moutinho is a new one sentence quote and then the same old information recycled.
As others have stated, if it takes this long to pull off a transfer then we needed to have done our research ahead of time. I really think we need this lad and M'Bia to maintain our 5th place spot honestly.
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1-1 Draw.
Yak for us, Cruz for them. This will be some ugly midfield play.
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How can any true fan be optimistic about the future, from this time last season we have lost stubbs, mcfadden, carsley, fernandes, gravesen, wessel, johnson, and with pienarr out, and cahill, baines, van der meyde, vaughan, hibbet 's injury history, I REALLY FEAR THE WORST.
God forbid they are gone or injured! They were the key to our .... ?
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He's a defensive midfielder that can make a pass or two isn't he? It's been awhile since I've seen him.
He would give us the look of a 5th place club in the starting XI if we were completely healthy (which won't happen, but still).
If this makes you all feel better, the way I look at our situation is Rodwell was an upgrade over Grav, Tiago should be an upgrade over Carsley, When Manny wasn't in form Gosling is just as good ( ) and Howard likes to play anyways, so Turner should cover just fine Oh, and Baxter will have us all saying Andy Johnson who?
If anyone else needs a pair of blue tinted glasses, let me know!
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Just for a laugh- lets just see what team we could've have and discuss
In's
Andrei Arshavin
Diego Milito
Joao Moutinho
Manny Fernandes
Stephen M'Bia
Alan Smith
Anthony Annan
Guillermo Ochoa
Out
Andrew Johnson
Lee Carsley
---------------Yakubu-----------------
----------Arshavin or Cahill--------
Pienaar-------Moutinho---------Arteta
----------------Annan------------------
Lescott----Jags-------Yobo---------Neville
----------------Howard-----------------
Bench
Diego Milito
Manny Fernandes
Stephen M'Bia
Leighton Baines
Guillermo Ochoa
Alan Smith
Leon Osman
Where would we end in the table?
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I'm still proud to be a Blue. Our starting lineup is still capable of a top 6 finish, we have some promising youngsters coming up from the academy, and we have another season of Europe.
COYB!
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http://totalodds.net/Nwagner_83747452.html
that site says we have singed him on loan.
Nothing on OS yet tho.
I hope this is so, I think I'm one of the few people who thinks he could bag us 15-20 goals a season (although he is streaky).
Love, Yak and Cahill right behind would be a 50 goal force.
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Ridiculous price tag. 29 year old player, wants to leave the club, now in a lower league. All these factors reduce the price of a player. Zaragoza are dilusional if they think they will be paid that amount.
If we were pushing for the top 4, I'd be all for an 8 mil bid.
Our CURRENT team will be stretched to finish 5th let alone push for the top 4. Lets get some midfielders before we consider this move.
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According to skysports, he has a 14mil price tag which has turned away Tottenham.
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You could be right
http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/08-09/rumo...dex.asp#080730h
Now Johnson comes back, bags us 20 goals, and we sing our way to the UEFA Cup Finals!
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The biggest thing I took out of that is Sporting wants the money all up front, I'm just not sure we can do that.
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A few people have mentioned this to me today, its spread like wild-fire. I'm not getting into the politics of it all, its battered my head all summer, i only wish there is truth in it.
It's on the website now.
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Not gonna happen.
http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Foo...ent-on-Everton/
Setanta says no, sky says yes, WHICH IS IT?!?! Ahhh!
http://www.skysports.com/football/transfer...0,14896,00.html
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I didnt know we had two Valente's but i understand what your saying. A very small squad last year has got even smaller, but dont worry there will be 3 or 4 coming in shortly.
Here is the adjusted current lineup bench (in light of corrections )
------------Yak----------------
-----------Osman-------------
Baines---Arteta-------Pienaar
-----------Neville---------------
Valente--Jags---Yobo---Lescott(out of position)
----------Howard--------------
Bench:
Turner
Anichebe
Gosling?
Rodwell?
Baxter?
JP Kissock?
Irving?
Injured
Cahill
Vaughan
Hibbert
Van Der Meyde
I dare say, no...were we REALLY going to play Van Der Meyde this year? With the size of our squad, it sure looked as if so!
Our squad is missing a couple things:
A true CM who can move the ball forward (Moutinho would fit this bill)
A striker who can handle being up top by himself, preferably with UEFA Cup/International Experience (I really think given our current squad McFadden would've been a great fit for this role..but it was definitely a good bit of business at the time)
A midfielder not afraid to put in a challenge(No one has currently been linked to this role?)
Last... Size! If we were able to bring in Moutinho, we would truly live up to the "midget gems" title. Not sure if that's a good thing when defending set pieces...
Cahill: 5'10"
Arteta: 5'9"
Pienaar: 5'7"
Osman: 5'8"
Moutinho: 5'6"
In short; I'm for Moutinho, but at the right price and if we still bring in 2-4 more players after him.
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but if were never going to sign class players (which cost alot of money) then we will be a midtable team for years to come, one class player could make the team go up that next level.
Is Moutinho a sure fire class player though? If Man U miss (if Nani doesn't pan out) it's not that big of a deal. If we miss, we can't just simply reload the next offseason.
There are plenty of other midfielders I'd consider when factoring in the price tag as better options than Moutinho (Toulalan and Bodmer, Alou Diarra). I just don't see him alone turning us into a top 4 team.
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I'm a little skeptical about whether he will sign or not, there are murmurings from Portuguese websites that he only said he would like to join Everton because he stands to make £1.5million if Everton put in a bid (even if it is rejected) over £15million.
I'm skeptical but for different reasons. If we did put in a bid over 16mil, I think we are definitely living beyond our means.
The fact of the matter is we would have 0 midfielders on our bench if we played the 4-5-1. we would have 1 forward with 1st team experience on our bench if we played a 4-4-2. We are an injury away from Baines playing in the Midfield. Imagine if tomorrow was opening day.
------------Yak----------------
-----------Osman-------------
Baines---Arteta-------Pienaar
-----------Neville---------------
Valente--Jags---Yobo---Lescott(out of position)
----------Howard--------------
Bench:
Turner
Valente
Anichebe
Gosling?
Rodwell?
That type of team won't hold up for an entire season + UEFA cup football.
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I really hope we can bring this guy in, if we could loan Fernandes back, bring him in and get a striker on loan, we would be in good enough shape. Especially if Baxter or Gosling can break through by the end of the season
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I take it from this article by D MOYES that Lescott will be at fullback again this season, disappointing for Baines.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/...00252-21396812/
I'm pretty sure from another article posted that Yobo is the odd man out in the middle as of this point.
Zigic
in Rumourama - Everton Transfer Rumours
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I don't think this will happen.
I'm 99% sure you can only have 2 players in on loan? That's why Portsmouth had to sign a player before they could bring in Jerome Thomas.