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So far Holland vs Australia 0-0 after 60 minutes.

Heitinga playing okay. But Neill has been Australia's best player so far.

He was being a bit sarcastic there mate, seems to think we all have it in for TC!

Yep the entire forum think hes crap because hes not scoring. But hes never giving the ball away. Pienaar is our best. But Cahill is always in our top 3.

Lol well if you understand football I can only presume that you have not watched Everton this season because Distin has been superb for us since he joined, I would even go as far as to say he has been an improvement on Lescott defensively

 

Also apart from a couple of dodgy performances early on Baines is now getting back to his best both defensively and attacking( Saha & Felli have both scored from Baines crosses in recent weeks

 

So that can only mean you are either clueless about football or you havent actually seen Everton play this season to want to play other players out of position ahead of Baines likewise your critisism of Distin

I have seen every one of our games this season. And i have played a lot of football. Baines is wasting these corners and set pieces. 2 good balls out of 10 isn't up to premiership level.

I know these guys are English and all. But we have to look outside the box. When Nuno was here he didn't get any time at all when recovered from injuries. And Neill is a lot higher quality than Baines. We need him on the park. Can't wait to see it.

In terms of importance to the team and nowt to do with potential or current form, (injured in brackets):

 

1. (Arteta)

2. Pienaar

3. (Jags)

4. Louis/Yak (couldnt split them)

5. Cahill

6. Howard

7. Rodwell

8. Baines

9. Distin/Yobo (couldnt split)

10. Bily (reckon in 12 months he'll be top5)

11. Heitinga/Fellaini/Jo/Gosling/Osman/Hibbert/Vaughan (undecided on all of them)

12. Vik

etc etc

Thats a good list.

Nah Cahill can't pass, win the ball, head the ball, run fast. In fact he can't do anything. So why should we give the captaincy to him? Especially when everyone is talking about benching him?

When Discussing Neill vs Baines, Neill is much better defensively. But lacks that attackive instinct Baines had that was so good towards the end of last year for us. Yes they don't play the same positions so i admit the thread may be a little pointless. But we can compare them none the less.

Should we be suprised? The Cahill hatred rages on? MOTM was out of Hetinga 1st and Cahill 2nd (he worked tirelessy). The fact that hes not even being discussed really shows what i have been discussing. Thought Hetingas long balls were outstanding today. He seems a lot more solid when not on the flanks, so being in the middle is a good thing.

Clearly you have never played football to any kind of standard, if at all, otherwise you would not come out with such drivel!

Actually i have. A lot of you guys fail to understand the fundamentals it seems.

Opinions on whos fault it was (the goal)?

distin...

I think your right there Marco. Distin has been poor aswell. Good thing is we are not playing half as good as we can. So when we pick things up, were going to rally for top 5 again.

Completely agree.

Okay lets remove Jagielka from the list. And give me your top 10's.

Its not pointless at all. It says in a way how you see our players.

i think thats a bit harsh on him that milky his positional sense in the area is second to none and he isnt a defensive player but i think hes doin a fair decent job in a new role...

Not just a bit harsh. Its a loony statement. Seems to be divided with England vs Australia here. If your English your a great player. If your Australian your not? Its what i have seen with Jagielka and Baines, who play poorly and then get great wraps on here.

his passing is poor his tackling is poor and his positional sense is poor if his goal tally goes down then he has nothing except spirit which is his outstanding ability

My word hes crap yeh. This is exactly what i mean. Cahill just gets blatantly bagged on here. Hes in our top 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5I_L416B_w

Baines is a great defender too. Don't know what your talking about!

Neill is quality aswell. Baines seems to not be doing so good lately.

Baines was quality last season. But he seems to have dropped off a lot this season. Defensively obviously Neill is a lot better. Baines best attacking attributes which are supporting runs and crosses which were fantastic last year have gone bad. And most of his crosses are terrible now.

So Baines vs Neill. Is it time to play Neill yet?

Or maybe for Heitinga?

Okay so lets rank our best players. I think this is a good thing to do.

Lets avoid ranking the long term injured. Arteta and Yakubu.

I have.

1. Pienaar

2. Cahill

3. Saha

4. Howard

5. Jagielka (Gets turned easy when defending on his left hand side)

6.Yobo

7. Distin

8. Osman

9. Fellaini (Heavy first touch)

10. Baines (His crossing has been terrible. Every corner same thing)

11. Heitinga (Very Ordinary Start to the season)

All in all we have a very solid squad and probably the best we have had in many years.

Question is, is Cahill at his best, our best player? Seem to get a bit confused here. Because when hes in form he gets talked down. And when hes doign okay its like he stinks?

Either way we need him further up the field. And possibly as a striker. Hes quality. Just like Yakubu.

Hey everyone our squad looks very strong. I just want to focus on Cahill for a minute.

For me Cahill has been outstanding once again for us this season. Hes playing a bit more defensive and hes doing very well. Winning a lot of ball and not giving up any possession. Hes a quality footballer now and his passing game has really developed. His radar has been a bit off in front of goal but overall he has done very well and is very solid.

I think hes still in our top 3 players.

I had to go with Cahill. Hibbert was a close 2nd. Fellaini was ordinary.

I think SAF believes Tim is the quick fix. I think he will do well, especially with the type of link up players that will feed him the ball. He should score a lot of goals with his head.

Good luck Tim. Thanks for all our times at Everton. I think you deserve to play for trophys.

Always welcome at Everton!

So you get man of the match for trying? Robinho totally dominated Jagielka. I gave my MOTM to Fellaini. Cahill doesn't start and Everton loose? What?

So let me guess. Because we got a clean sheet man of the match has to go to Baines or Jags? Baines was decent.

But MOM must come out of Pienaar and Cahill.

13 votes for Baines just shows how rediculous these votes are becoming.

Im watching it. Nil all at half time.

Both sides really lack direction when in the attacking third.

Not a highly entertaining game. And these 2 are lucky there not in Japan and Australias group.

1. Ronaldo

2. Gerrard

3. Terry

4. Torres

5. Vidic

6. Essien

7. Lampard

8. Fabregas

9. Rooney

10. Mascherano

 

Incredibly biased of course.

Thats a good 10.

Adebayor has 12 goals and 8 assists in all competitions in only 28 games played, and he's Arsenal's second-leading scorer this year after Van Persie. If that's a bad season, we could do with a few more of Everton's players having bad seasons.

He must have scored 12 against Stoke. I seriously have no memory of Adebayor playing well this year.

Drogba? how many goals? Eduardo the same lol.