craccer i called you negative because to say lets hope for a win is negative ok its only a friendly and yes the result is meaningless as the others have said but no offence to the scottish but the scottish prem league is not the same as ours in my opinion its the eqivalant of the old 1st division or as its now called the championship so to hope for a win against aberdeen is in my eyes negative me personally i expect us to win i dont expect a ten nil win or a brillant all round performance but a win yes