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moyes has said today we might have to lower our standards

very open interview with DM on the official site, but does not make good reading

ah sorry, i thought you meant greed on the fans part. arshavin has been priced well out, and i guess marseile just dont want to sell cana

dont confuse negativity and frustration with not backing the club. there are many varied views around here of the current state of EFC but we all back the club through thick and thin. the faith is often hard to keep. the worrying thing for me is moyes looks and sounds just as worried as the fans

i too have no wish to fall out with anybody, ive been around here long enough to know we can all have healthy debate without getting personal or falling out. KEIOC are not for staying at Goodison necessarily, thats GFE, keioc are for getting the truth out of the club, which we did not get the first time around. surely you can see jim that the club lied to us about the kirkby development? you must have seen the lies about the figures quoted? the lies about transport? and you cant be happy with the club lying to you?

if you read through that whole toffeeweb article, pretty much all the bullet pointed issues are ones we have now with BK, especially the stadium ones. people seem to forget the mess the club was in when johnson bought it compared to the mess when he sold it.

everton have never had an average of 70k plus, fact. if you have any knowledge of money you would know it is not good business sense to pay for something you do not own, double it and your just askin for trouble. fratton park is being sold, after the new owner put a lot of money into solent stadium, fact. the supporters do want a move, but not just any old half arsed idea they come up with, they want the best option available to the club when all routes have been looked at. im dissappointed in any evertonian who does not expact the best for this club, and the kirkby move was not the best Peter Johnson was a Tranmere fan

who is a red shite?

absolutely spot on there jim. he was also lucky the police didnt charge him

you think moyes wanted the kirkby move?

the simple fact is also kirkby would have had us paying a mortgage on the new stadium that we didnt own, whilst also paying the motgage on Goodison which we wouldnt have owned anymore, we would have had a slowly decreasing fan base in the long term, a stadium in which the fans would struggle to access whilst no one wanted to invest in the park and ride system, no one wanted to invest in the increase of public transport into kirkby (trains the major one) the town was to be a no park area, i can keep going. or if you like, maybe just read into the facts of the planning proposal on the KBC website and its all there in black and white. i assume your a BK supporter, but please andswer me this, what has BK done for EFC? im not talking about what Moyes has done, we know what Moyes has done, what has BK done? and your simple fact, that we are not prospective in GP, why did Gaydemark invest all that money into pompy when fratton park is in a hell of a worse state than GP. and what exactly are KEIOC guilty of? if that vote was brought out with the facts on the table as they are now, they wouldnt even come close

we all know the problem, if he cant get the players in he isnt going to want to sign

then id have no problem with them sueing him either. the players should know in their priveleged position if they take this route its going to cost them

there was mention of his contract, he just said its straight forward, just pushing along nicely

id have liked to see how Gregg would have done if he wasnt forced out of the club with BKs horrible misleading of the fans with Fortress Sports Fund. BK has always said he will sell the club, but there have been people enquired about the club to not get a response from BK, one name to mention was a group of bluenose friends led by David McLean (of McLean Homes) who registered interest with BKs secretary on three occasions not to get a reply or even a phone call from BK. i have mentioned this before here but people tend not to believe me. BK wants investors, not buyers, he wants people who will let him carry on being the figure head he so much likes to be. he may have been in charge while Moyes turned the club around, but to me, i will see him as no better then Peter Johnson, BK has over seen the sale of all the clubs assets and put us in the worst financial situation the club has ever been in. Johnson wasnt perfrect, but he had vision and the money to back it up. BK has hired a manager and got lucky, Johnson hired managers and had less luck. i'll probably get shot down for this by people who see PJ as the devil and BK as some sort of saint.

id have him, very good premiership midfielder, maybe not the kind of big name we would like in but would be very useful

i see what your saying, but who else could come in with a claim? how many players have been sacked? they couldnt have been seen publicly to back a drug abuser

having 16 recognised first team players cant be put down to greed chris, surely?

i actually agree with this. chelsea paid a lot of money for him and he let them down, but he let them down by using illegal drugs, i think this is spot on.

bent looks to be hitting form at the moment though mate, may only be friendlies, but he has been banging them in

this crap that kenwright doesnt take money out, thats bollocks, he said years ago he wasnt looking to make money, but that man must take some. there were payments two years on the trott for £400k to a production company based in london. i see your point phil, but if owners only want clubs who have the stadium already, what happened at pompy? anybody see DMs press conference for the blackburn game? reporter "david is your current squad strong enough to carry on the progress you've made in the last few years?" DM "no, no its not" reporter "you've done well with a small squad before, like finishing fourth, can this be to your benefit?" DM "not with a squad this small, no"

i tried three days ago, only obstructed views left

i hate the lot of them, but im sick to death of labour, i hate to say it but next time i'll probably vote tory. my finances have only seemed to get worse under labour, nothing but tax after tax after tax with that shower of shite, im sure the tories will be no different but a change is needed, and as someone else said, no one else will get a chance anyway

i always remember seing elton john doing the same in france after princess diana had died.

i fear tomorrow may never come my friend. i think the problems we have may be bigger than they seem, but god i hope not because right now i'm worried how much trouble we may be in.