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From his abjectly dreadul debut at Portsmouth I have never warmed to Heitinga. I'd give him 4/10 as a signing. Massively disappointing. Distin has my utmost respect.

Cheers. Just finding my feet!

You say that but certain aspects of his coaching style have always concerned me - like the repeated screaming at players throughout the game, the reluctance to try anything other than 4 5 1, the slowness with which he makes adjustments within games and the lumping it up to the big man. I am not saying there have been no improvements in the style of play over the years under Moyesie but for example Hibbert would almost certainly be playing now if he was fit and Coleman's development as an attacking right sided compliment to Baines on the other flank would almost certainly be on hold. There also comes a point when players stop listening to the manager. I think that has already happened - in spite of what you might hear from Captain Clampit.

Fully agreed. Definite signs of at least a plan B from RM. The two lads he brought down from Hamilton - McArthur and McCarthy - who have gone from promising youngsters to seasoned EPL players are examples of what you are describing. Not so much of the "Run, run, run" under Martinez which I for one would appreciate.

No but we are currently playing pretty poorly - and we have drawn an awful lot of games against lower half teams.

BTW ... Moyes 'has' a top job in England, or hadn't you noticed ?

I think Moyes' star is on the way down.He will never get a top job in England so we might be stuck with him until Celtic come calling in a few years time. If he does walk away my choices would be Solksjaer or Martinez - someone less stubborn and more pro-active when it comes to making adjustments.

Of course - but the team is horribly out of form and losing games becomes a habbit as quickly as winning them.

I am sure you lot have discussed this but some of Moyes' best decisions are thrust on him by injury. He couldn't pick his nose when he has a fully fit squad. It's the packed midfield /one forward shit isn't it? Robbing Peter to play Paul most of the time. Try something new ffs. Play Barkley every game until the end of the season and let him learn on the job as Coleman is doing.

Stubbsy seems to be doing an excellent job with the kids. Like to see some of them get a proper chance in the first team before the end of the season ie not the last three minutes when we are losing.

Keep it tight and try to pinch one from a set piece. Trouble is we cannot defend corners ourselves. City will have too much quality for us I fear. Don't want to see Neville anywhere near the team sheet. He was done three seasons ago.

Exaggeration for emphasis. Cheers everyone.

Not the greatest time to join an Everton forum I appreciate after that disaster on Saturday! I am a Republic of Ireland based Blue who has seen the great, the good, the bad and the average times. I am currently very much in the "We need a fresh approach" category regarding Moyes. I am sick of Phil Neville and I detest Johnny Heitinga. Hope I have not alienated myself before I even start. Nice to be here.