paul

It's a non season ticket match so if you bought your ticket for the game against Huddersfield in your usual seat you can still change your seat for that match. You just phone up the box office and change your seat.

Got an email that fans are trying out a sort of singing area against Huddersfield in the Lower Gwladys Street starting at seat numbers LL100 to 110 and further back. It'll be good to get some singing back. Hope people go in it

If you're not in the autocup and buy your own ticket do they just credit your season card or do you get a normal seperate ticket like everyone else?

How does this work? If you don't take it up then for Cup games do you still have time to reserve your own seat before it goes on general sale? Conversely if you do take it up but want to change your seat how do you go about it?

Is the top tier overlapping the lower tier there I can't quite tell? It should do, fit more capacity into space if they give it a big overlap

What video was that mate? By the way. Count me in!

That seats fine. I thought the halvf ST's started v Burnley? You're losing out on a match there. I personally just would've picked my games than get a late one

Not surprised one bit. The stewards at GP are throwing fans out for some of the slightest things. It only takes the fan to argue back and it turns into an arrest.

Contrast of cultures those two! I done the Upper Bullens a fair bit back then, it's the same match experience as now. Did you ever go in the Lower Bullens then? Was there much singing or atmosphere in there?

What part of the ground did you go in in the 80s?

Does anyone know if Everton ever sung Away in a manger? I remember the 12 days of Christmas and I was wondering if we done that other festive song too?

How many left backs do we need? Who'll go there if Baines is injured?

We should always demand more. Even Barcelona fans demand more. I'm sure David Moyes always tries to get more out of his players. It's upto fans to demand more from the backroom staff. I want Everton to be the best club in the world. I am not satisfied that Kirkby can only expand to 60,000 as that will never allow us to be the best in the world. Perhaps not everyone has my ambition and would settle for 2nd best

I hold a similar view to you. No way would I go less than 50k. I would locve it to one day be able to go bigger than 60k though. Shame they're not alowing it too. Would have been nice to think that one day Everton could be one of the Super powes but Everton have ruled it out.

I think your source was winding you up!

I'm only a very casual poster on here but how about a homepage that could have links not only to the forum menu but also to the main topcs of interested posted. Toffeeweb has a good homepage with links to articles, perhaps the 'articles' on here could be actual forum posts. Perhaps it could be an official forum for a different website? The actual forum here is ok, there does seem a lot of forums though ones for a narrow subject matter, perhaps have less forums and this will increase the frequency of threads on the main forums so I'd come back more to catch up.

Of course the singing crap, you need fans into the singing to all go to the same place in the ground and stand up, that doesn't happen at Goodison so its going to be crap. To the City fan from Blure Moon fanzine. You do know that Blue Moon was sung by Everton before City don't you? The irony eh!

Possibly November?

Rather than making up songs, perhaps we should concentrate on reasons why there isn't much singing and then look to rectify them first? Get a place for singers to congregate and stand perhaps?

Yeah I remember all of those chants Dangermouse, the goal kick chant went on for ages too, it'll have to be revived! Do you remember the Barry Horne riding through the glen song to the Robin Hood tune? It probably only got sung a couple of times in the pubs, but I cant remember if it ever got sung in the ground can you? Lee, the songs they're muting are a bit crap to be honest. The Baby's not yours is crap. Whos that cuming over your bird was last years one. They're making them out to be worse than what they are to be honest.

Yeah chants have always been part of the fun of a match. I guess its like the pantomime baddy isn't it? Haven't said that 'the babys not yours' song bores me tears now, its really overdone, but we all have different tasters. I prefer the 'You robbed your own fans' chant

Did we ever sing 'He's got the whole world up his nose' for him?

Some fascinating stuff. Celtic, Man U and Liverpool and Chelsea all have one. The main reasons for Celtic and Man U seem to be the style of the stadium preventing it happening and also like minded fans were spread out rather than together. Liverpool's though is just a case of them not having scousers in the kop ha ha! Their problem is that the foreigners are going in their to experience the atmosphere rather than create it.and they're taking the place of those who want to create the atmosphere hence reclaim the kop! Chelsea's just seems to be a case of their singers are spread out and that stewards tell them to sit. So they have an agreed area where they are allowed to stand.

I would have thought that hardcore would mean those who are well into singing rather than those who can take it or leave it. No fan is better than another, some fans want different things from their match day experience. I remember reading a part of the petition that discusses what they would like to happen if Everton moved stadium.

Good point. That's another argument in favour of this standing/singing part. In this area were standing is tolerated its suggested that it would be at the back of the stand so that its not in everyones way. Whereas now you get people standing up because they want to, but they're in peoples way who want to sit. It's time for clubs to enter the 21t Century