Matt

dont be silly Steve, where would we get our daily boost of doom'n'gloom?

Oldham, Sheffield Wednesday for sure, i'll have to think for the other 2

marriage is safe

going to introduce the wife to The Shawshank Redemption. Wish me luck....

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what do you call a woman with 1 leg? Eileen. what do you call a chinese woman with 1 leg? Irene.

we are 4 yrs in and I wouldnt be surprised if theres a clause to review next year. But thats the point - weve no idea on the details. If it turns out we can renegotiate next year then who knows. We just dont know anything and were not entitled to know these sensitive business details! it was crisis management - stick the plaster on now, we'll get to the surgery later

absolutely, but the need for money coming in mightve meant that 10yr was all that was being offered. Kitbag had to preserve their business too so made sense to them even though they made a loss so far on the deal. Truth is we dont know how the deal was orchestrated nor the defining factors. Our 3m is buttons in comparison to others but its a lot more than -0.5m negotiated at the start of a global recession....

trouble is they dont see poor performance. They see record deals set which offered a quick answer (which theyve achieved), record turnovers, hoping on the pitch performances would keep them in Europe and theyd have time for a long term plan. Team didnt deliver, theyre also partly (small part I'll grant you) to blame for financial predicament.

I know its unlikely, but its possible. Its also possible noone wants the job and even if we bring someone in, we dont know if they'll be better or worse.

fair point but what if there isnt anyone available? would the BU guys be happy spending more money on more business men if they were? Also, we as fans dont go stomping our feet through the streets saying "Bily out" (see what I did there?) or to change the team selection. We can complain/debate/etc as much as we like, but we wouldnt protest so I dont see it as the same thing.

fair enough. But, if the board dont want to answer, its up to them. We both know where we stand, lets leave it at that

but you cant run a business like that. Letting out too much communication can threaten more than help. Also, Im not confident the BU or supporters in general would be able to do anything with information given! What sale of Baines? Theres a contract on the table to be signed? Speculation for now.

BINGO!

alright, chill! Just asking the question! Infinitely worse because they have no idea of how a business is run (if they do theyre doing a damn good job of hiding it). I think we agree - good intentions with shocking implementation due to lack of knowledge / brains.

exactly my point. Im sure the current board are also looking into getting investment based on a long term plan. Just because they dont share business sensitive material doesnt mean it isnt happening!

and the BU do?

maybe not:

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Thought that was defence if someone attacks you with a bushel of blueberries?

partly yes, but a large part is how this board has put the club into financial difficulties. when I pointed out that the owners/boards at these other clubs that are shown as "this is what money can achieve", they fail to show how bad the finances are there too. Its just not balanced, again.

In as good a mood as usual mate? Id take Sinclair, depending on the cost

Same could be said for Everton, I only point it out because their arguments are focused on off pitch performance

So close... They actually started sounding reasonable, then they descend into their childish bitching and moaning.... Nevermind City made massssssive losses (-197m) , nevermind Utd are carrying huuuuuge debts (471m), Chelsea lost 68m, Liverpool lost 49m..... And as Louis says, what is the point?

Germany, Holland, GB and Brazil at a guess