pax

 

 

Well, yes you could. It's an opinion.

True, it's an opinion, just like saying a convicted repeat rapist is harmless and no threat to women is an opinion

You could argue that we need a new manager.

 

 

No. You couldn't. The worst thing that could happen to this football club, apart from going bust, is losing our manager. If we lost Moyes, our best players would leave, no players would want to come here (doesn't matter of we can afford them or not), we wouldn't get anyone remotely near his experience and quality, the entire stability of the club would be under threat.

IMO, if Moyes leaves, the house comes tumbling down. He is absolutely vital.

I think we need some better fans who actually support the club rather than spending every second they have trying to find a reason to attack, undermine and de-stabalise the club. We have a poor season and there will be more than a few pointing fingers at so called supporters in the stands. You listening Hafnia?

Just wondering how long you need to be on this forum for before the rules dont apply to you and mods (mod) let you get away with stuff they don't let others get away with? If you applied basic common sense you'd think the posters who have been on the site the longest and should know better and it would be the newer posters given some slack. StevO clearly thinks the opposite.

Do prison guards let convicts get away with re-offending in jail, you know, once they have got to know them ?

 

 

 

Pot, Kettle and Black come to mind...

Care to substantiate you're accusation further ?

Read my last post.

Answer my 2 questions !

you can read, you can see who called who what and you can also see the actions taken with everyone involved.

yes i did wrongly say you were the only one saying that, and others have been dealt with since.

 

when i initially warned you it was from reading your last few posts. after i went back and read the whole thread i dealt with the other people involved.

 

also, they are not my mates. codders is only new here too, he had made one comment i had seen and spoke to him about it straight away.

haf has been on here years and we have built up mutual respect which was why i chose a different action with him which has worked so far.

 

this will be the last i say on the matter.

Why are you refusing to answer those very simply questions. This is twice you have ducked these questions. Something to hide?

You're refusal to answer these two questions speaks volumes and shows everyone exactly what has gone on here. You gave me a warning for calling Hafnia a prick and you gave you're mate hafnia a pat on the back for him calling me an 'absolute prick'.

Cracking moderator.

I've taken my family to games in the hospitality in the Park End quite often, The Peoples club i think it is. I get e-mails all the time with some pretty good discounts and offers for games where they haven't sold out.

Whats the company name BCR Sports Ltd ?

I'm not in on Monday but i can do a company search at work on Tuesday.

Science/philosophy 101. All theories are true until proven otherwise.

Yeah, no doubt that's the philosophy Hafnia applies to all his conspiracy theories and fables about the board.

as already stated to you pax, action was taken with the other people who were abusive to you.

they have responded in a positive manner and will consider their attitude in future before being abusive.

 

you have also been told in a few threads about attitude with people over the past couple of weeks, by myself and other members, but ignored and continued.

 

i stand by my actions taken with all people involved.

Yes, you are standing by the fact you told me i was the only person who called anyone a prick despite the evidence that proves you are 100% wrong.

Are you now saying you were wrong when you sent me that message?

Answer two very simply questions for me.

1) Was i the only person who called someone a prick in that thread?

2) Did Hafnia call me an 'absolute prick' in that thread

A proper winger, with pace. Not someone who can do a job there.

 

I'd happily wait til next summer for a striker if we could get a winger.

Agreed. No chance of getting one though.

Opinions are not based on nothing,conjecture is a proposition that is unproven but is thought to be true and has not been disproven. Hope that makes my stance clear

If you base you're opinion on items that have no evidence and no facts, you're opinion is based on nothing. Dress up your guff however you like.

You're opinions get disproved all the time and the stuff that hasn't been, is because it would be like disproving He Man existed. A pointless and worthless exercise to disprove something so infantile it's not worth the bother. Even for a self proclaimed Super Fan like you.

Pax, I don't know what's gone on, but what I do know is that some of the comments made in the 'Do you want a City style takeover' thread made me wonder what I'd come back to.

 

I've had my fair share of warnings and bans over the years, and having owned forums, I've had to hand them out too, but what I've learned is that no matter how right I thought I was, the minute I broke the rules, I was wrong.

 

http://www.toffeetal...embers-new-old/

 

It's much easier to just offer an opinion, rather than enforce it, and accept that other opinions will be different. If you don't get on with someone, take it on the chin and try not to let it ruin the experience for others.

 

If you put someone on ignore, just do it, as opposed to declaring it.

 

I've made all the mistakes there are to make mate, and I've paid for them plenty, but no matter how much you think the admins are wrong, the first port of call should be to address your own actions, otherwise it would be a little hypocritical.

 

First and foremost, 'you' were wrong mate, by retaliating the way you did. This isn't just my opinion, but also clearly defined in the rules, of which you want the admins to apply.

 

I hope it all blows over and you both shake hands so to speak.

I appreciate your comments, but i'm not sure you understand the situation.

1) SteveO issued me with a warning for calling hafnia a 'prick' - Thats fine by me.

2) I ask SteveO if i was the only person who got a warning.

3) He responded with 'You were the only person to call someone a prick'

4) I informed him that Hafnia had indeed called me an 'asbolute prick' in post no.55 in that thread.

5) SteveO refuses to acknowledge that Hafnia had committed the same offence i had, inseatd basically tells me that Hafnia is his mate so nothing will be done about it.

6) I try and get SteveO to acknowledge the fact that Hafnia called me a prick and he completely refuses. Playground stuff.

I admit my guilt. I was wrong i shouldn't have done it. I accept my warning and have never once argued against it. What i don't accept is that someone who committed the exact same offence i did, will have absolutely no action taken against them at all, because the mod in question is his mate. That undermines the forum and shows the forum to be a place where rules are not applied to all evenly and openly.

Just to clarify a moderator has confirmed to me he doesn't apply the forum rules evenly and openly to all. Cracking stuff.

We do know the legal ownership of the club..

 

Kenwright, BCR Sports, Philip Carter & Jon Woods own 73%

Lord Grantchester owns 8% but is not on the board

 

What we don't know is who is behind BCR Sports for certain and how Bill Kenwright was able to afford to buy into Everton. But does that matter?

Lord Granchester is a man who could make all our dreams come true at Everton. He clearly has absolutely no interest in the club at all, so how come he owns 8%?

This article is old, but worth a read if you haven't seen it.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-1603795/Green-at-heart-of-Everton-battle.html

 

 

All conjecture unless we get done serious panorama style investigation.

Glad you finally admit all your views and opinions are based on nothing. Getting somewhere now. Now all we need to do is work on your plan for the future of Everton which is built on the mediocre, standing still, not winning the league, stagnation and absolutely no ambition above moving the club up a few places in the league !

It would be nice that, if a warning or ban is handed out to someone for doing something, if someone else does that exact same thing, they receive the same punishment.

It would be nice if the rules were applied to everyone, evenly.

Have to say, censorship of the clubs supporters is 100% wrong. If there is no foul language, no offensive comments, no racism etc on the banners then the club have absolutely no right to remove them. This will actually have the reverse effect that the club are hoping for. It gives the cretins and conspiracy theorists amongst us more reason to shout their rubbish.

If that's your thought pax why continue to have arguments with him?

This is not a forum for fighting, if that's what you want I suggest blue kipper.

You are of course right, I should never have taken the little oik off ignore. He offers nothing but ignorance and stupidity. Not once has he been able to back anything up on thus forum, not once.

Back to ignore he goes.

 

Doesn't really matter what out opinion is, but when levy doesn't own the club why would he bankroll it?

As the club makes a tidy profit why would it need to be bankrolled.

Can you explain to me if Spurs are in debt and the directors loans the club owes and to whom?

 

Careful you will have him scrambling for the online dictionary for the first word.

 

Second word is easy, marco invented it, I await his definition....

 

He's proven to be everything I thought he would be. Pax, what did you think of the game? Or are you going to plagiarize other forums (steal ideas for those of us who are sub human as a result of lack recreational options in Liverpool, according to this absolute prick) - you sure as heck didn't watch it.

I know I didn't watch it. I was out, socialising with friends, not that you'd know much about that. Look it up. My life doesn't revolve around Everton and I'm thankful for that. I'm afraid I lead a more interesting and diverse life than that.

Why don't you tell everyone about how many season tickets I've had since I moved back to the UK 5 years ago?

How many games I've been to?

You seem to know better than I do, so come on super fan who watched a friendly tonight, tell everyone about me? You ignorant, infantile prick.

 

Haven't really read your post usual crap referring to intelligence (really got a bee in your bonnet about that haven't you)

 

Ive just spent the past 105 minutes watching the team I support, what you been doing? Yep, thought as much... Trying to rescue your dead reputation you tit. At least we know where your priorities lie.

So no reply then? Not even your usual standard of made up rubbish and things absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter?

The rest of your guff leads me to think you lead an incredibly sad and pathetic existence.

The words sanctimonious and cunt spring to mind

 

Can't think why

Looking in the mirror ?

 

You do like the word stupid don't you?

 

Well how's about this for stupid, you made the idiots mistake in trying to translate latin by applying English language translation in word order, thinking you can shorten the sentance in the way that others will know the English version. Latin is a complex language that required all words together in order for the true meaning to be understood - which are required to establish meaning, same words can have slight differences depending upon the words they accompany. Fancy me knowing this eh, I went to a school ya know!

 

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum = Nil (No, None, Nothing) Satis (Enough, sufficient) Nisi (except) Optimum (Best) = Nothing but the best is good enough

 

Nil Satis = No satisfaction / not sufficient

 

You really do need to stop trying to appear more clever than you actually are, you are building up quite a collection... Plus knock it on the head with the remarks, you still haven't countered my challenge to you from weeks ago. You hiding behind your hands yet?

 

Anyway back to your other points:

 

Spain and Germany? Both big footballing nations yes? Dominated by a miniority, where teams of less financial clout have won the league with teams that have been built at a fraction of the cost. Yes, so we do have some relevance. Unless you are saying that they play a different set of rules? So it wasn't a stupid point, quite relevant. You feeling stupid yet?

 

So you need large sums of money to win the premier league? You mention Arsenal, now let's see - the perfect model for me, if I could pick any team of the last 15 years or so it would be their invincibles again 2003-2004

 

Lehman - £1.5m

Lauren - £7.2m

Campbell - Free

Toure - £250k

Cole - youth

LJunberg - £3m

Viera - £3.5m

Gilberto - £ 4.5m

Pires - £6m

Bergkamp - £7.5m

Henry - £10.5m

 

What's that less than £45m???

 

Yes, Chelsea won 2 leagues back to back after Arsenal, then what? Their mega expensive team were beaten 3 times in a row by a united team (giggs, scholes, neville etc) supplemented by carefully selected signings Ronaldo - £11m. United have won 4 of the last 5 premier leagues with a team built on spirit, trust, tradition. Man city will be in the mix this year no doubt about it... just expect the usual unrest, water bottles being kicked upon substitutions being made, transfer requests etc etc. Also expect teams built with less quality with more spirit to take points off them.

 

In closing, I think the above summarises that my comments are not stupid - as much as you like to thing they are. In the month you have been on here you have made an arse of yourself so many times with the crap that yopu spout.

 

Again stop trying to appear that you know more than you actually do, there are people on here who are intelligent but do not find the need to spout the garbage and barbed comments that you do. Really no one is impressed... Maybe take a course in latin?

I'm sorry, i couldn't see where you showed me that i made any attempt to define 'Nil Statis'? You waffled on with your usual guff and tripe but as usually your too thick to understand and answer the question put to you. Hopefully having a second try might help.

Again, you don't seem to understand that Everton play in the PREMIER LEAGUE. This is the English top league, not Spain and not Germany. I could have sworn this was a 'debate' about how much money it could take to make Everton successful, so why bring up leagues we don't and never will play in. I personally prefer to talk about the league we play in and the competitors we play against, rather than the pointless, irrelevant bollox's you have to dream up in order to have something to say.

Right, Arsenal. How many league titles have Arsenal won since Ambramovich bought Chelsea? Have they won anything? No. So they won stuff pre the billionaire owners, great, how relevant is that to today? Also, i know this is completely beyond your intelligence, but the players and the prices you listed, if those players were bought in todays market, you think they'd still be the prices you listed? Of course not, it's a fucking stupid point. £5 to £10 million on a player back then was expensive.

Yes, Chelsea have only been beaten to the league title since Abramovich took over by one of the richest clubs in the world? Were you actually using that as a point to prove you don't need big money to win the league? Jesus Christ.

Who have been the richest clubs in the Premier League since 2004-05? Man Utd and Chelsea. Who are the only two teams to have won the league since 2004-05? Man Utd and Chelsea. Is this something you are really finding that hard to understand?

Where is this cheaply assembled proper team full of spirit been in the last 6 years? Nowhere, absolutely nowhere, because without big money you get nowhere near the Premier league title. FACT.

You are full of shit and you are stupid beyond words. You blame the board for mediocrity, for having no ambition, for being stagnant and then in this very thread, you outline your plan which is basically the exact same, except a couple of places higher. Absolutely moron.