The Beard Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 There appears to be some confusion over this. Some folk reckon we are there as if Chelsea beat us in the Cup we get invited to the last stage of the Europa League qualifying round whilst others are disagreeing with this. If we have then maybe Moyes will start to rest a few players. Anyone got concrete evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 There appears to be some confusion over this. Some folk reckon we are there as if Chelsea beat us in the Cup we get invited to the last stage of the Europa League qualifying round whilst others are disagreeing with this. If we have then maybe Moyes will start to rest a few players. Anyone got concrete evidence. The runners up in the FA Cup no longer get a place in Europe even if the winners have already qualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Like Mark said....no confusion. We need to win the cup or finish in the top seven. You'd get looooooooooooong odds on us not qualifying but it ain't a mathematically certainty yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beard Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 According to official UEFA website, it states on Europa League format 2009, "The losing finalist for the domestic cup competition will still be entitled to be entered for the UEFA Europa League should the domestic cup winners qualify for the Champions League". Sounds like we are there already, unless UEFA have fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 I'd have thought the OS would have pointed it out by now if we were assured . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maghull70 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 The runners up in the FA Cup no longer get a place in Europe even if the winners have already qualified. My understanding was that the runner up of the League Cup no longer got a place. The FA Cup you do if the winner is in the Chumps League. SO yes we are there but I dont think Moyes will be resting players, He'll want that 5th place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 For us to qualify for Europa League, Chelsea need to win three more points before the season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zequist Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 The runner-up of the League Cup NEVER got a place. That slot always went to the next-highest in the standings if the winner qualified by another avenue. Louis and Maghull, you are correct. The original plan when they were announcing this last summer was that FA Cup runner-ups would no longer be the first alternates for Europe, but in the fall they went back and tweaked it. The relevant note is in the November issue of UEFA Direct (link: http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/downlo...83_download.pdf ) it says on page 14: "Losing domestic cup finalists will still be able to play in the UEFA Europa League if the winners qualify for the UEFA Champions League. In taking this decision, the Executive Committee was anxious to stress the importance of the domestic cup competitions and to preserve their appeal." So that's the kicker. We'll get in even if we lose, because Chelsea barring some kind of disaster is going to be in next year's Champions League. BUT, if it was a case where we finished in fifth place (an automatic Europa qualifying spot) and then were playing the FA Cup final against some Championship team, they would not be guaranteed a spot for losing to us, because we aren't going to the CL. In that instance, the spot would go to the 7th place team instead. I also found this note on another site: "For all countries, the Cup Winner, if they don't qualify for a better position from their finish in the standings, gets to start in the latest or tied for the latest Europa League qualifying round of any team from their country. This means that in England, Spain, and Italy the Cup Winner gets the same treatment as the team that finishes fifth in the standings, while in the 18 countries other than Liechtenstein ranked 35th or worse, the Cup Winner gets better treatment than the second place team in the standings." So if we won this thing, we'd still skip to the last qualifying round even if we don't overhaul Aston Villa. It unfortunately does not say, however, whether a "Cup Runner-Up" gets treated the same as if they were a "Cup Winner" in this scenario, so if we finished sixth and lost to Chelsea, I don't know what that would do to our starting round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 For us to qualify for Europa League, Chelsea need to win three more points before the season is over. Shall we just roll over tonight then...guarentee some Europa footy next season lol :upsidedown: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Confirmed on the OS . A shred of good news from today. http://evertonfc.com/news/archive/europe-guaranteed.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Confirmed on the OS . A shred of good news from today. http://evertonfc.com/news/archive/europe-guaranteed.html as if there was any doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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