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In terms of relative economy size and agreement, lining up would be a mild way of putting it

Which "extreme left wing polices" and which "far left predecessors" is he worse than?

Wages will go up in any sector when there's more jobs than workers Pete., more chance of this post Brexit.

Zero deflection from me, I made no claims other than employment had risen to your claim it had fallen, the jobs market is constantly in a state of change, most companies go broke over time jobs are constantly being lost and replaced that doesn't mean it's a result of the referendum.

You sound like a left winger who hasn't heard the left wing argument for Brexit, how do you think you create wage growth Pete? With unlimited amounts of labour? Why do you think Corbyn has been a eurosceptic his whole life, you can't even have unions if you've got unlimited cheap labour sources, they just don't work.

Do you think it's helping your cause that you posted fake news you hadn't read that confirms your bias then fail to acknowledge it when it's shown to be fake?

Plot twist: Corbyn blocks a GE before Brexit and the UK crashes out with no deal. In the ensuing clusterfuck Labour win a GE and free of the capitalist shackles of the EU socialises everything.

You didn't watch it though did you, there's been no debate. Just people shouting at each other about things they haven't got a clue about.

Professor Michael Dougan, Jean Monnet Chair in EU Law, University of Liverpool, outlines the challenges faced by the UK and then the options available. Been up since January and has less than 7k views, Gove was right about one thing, "people have had had enough of experts"

What time frame are you putting on this, what will be the extent of the initial contraction assuming no deal and what mechanisms/actions do you think will lead to the eventual thriving?

https://www.ft.com/content/36baacce-ddd0-11e8-9f04-38d397e6661c Now stop trying to deflect and respond to the fact that you posted a fake news site where a loony twitter activist is attributing bogus job losses to something that hasn't happened.

That's better!

It is a joke, the clown has Jamies Oliver's restaurants and Debenhams in there. Everything you need to know about job statistics is contained in this link https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes

All the links you've posted have been by partisan hacks, I scrolled down and its a joke by a joker. The very first check of his methodology falls over, Aviva 1800 job losses in England attributed to Brexit Reality 1800 WORLDWIDE in business as usual downsizing to reduce costs https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48538964 If you want data forgot the media and go direct to the source https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes

Yes I am, you are using the threat of closure in a news article as evidence to back up your claim that "1000's people have lost their jobs". It doesn't take a Rhodes scholar to see the fallacy. The video demonstrates nothing (he provides zero evidence) other than after 10 years of austerity, wage growth off a low base is cold comfort for people doing it tough which is probably very true. It does nothing to demonstrate your claim that the Brexit withdrawal process has decimated jobs because it demonstrably hasn't. Those impacts will be post Brexit and will be easy to identify.

Are you actually reading these articles Pete or just googling closures? These are not helping your argument. Also, correlation is not causation.

This is also demonstrably not true, wage growth is faster than inflation and full time work higher.

A quick read shows the headline was misleading. "The Welsh plant, which has been manufacturing engines for 40 years, has been under threat of closure for some time. This is in part due to falling demand for the two engines it produces, as well as low projections for the Dragon engine, which the factory was due to start making this year."

Pete, you claimed 1000's lost their jobs because of Brexit (which hasn't actually happened) a quick google will attest to a jobs boom in the UK.

I'm not sure about that link mate, the compiler looks like he might have an agenda, doesn't seem like totally unbiased reporting https://twitter.com/mrhickmott Factcheck says employment has increased https://fullfact.org/economy/more-people-work-brexit-vote/

Again, you're guessing leave voters cared about those things but wheres the demonstration of that position? Leavers will say they can deliver it, they just need the chance.

Seeing as were going to only respond to half the arguments, I'll finish with I don't think the main issue was even on what the deal would be for a significant number of leavers and it was a referendum by proxy on immigration. With hindsight I think leave was always going to win and would very likely win a second referendum.

I still think it's very likely they prefer a deal, and the threat of no deal is the only real option to see where their pain threshold is. Does anyone east of Germany have any political clout?