Hafnia

If he has managed to turn a group of players around who he pretty openly admitted he had lost - then he has achieved more than most managers. The fact is people were saying "same old players getting another manager sacked" which I found bizarre.... unless dcl, Pickford and Coleman were the legacy troublemakers..... which I don't believe for one second. I think the reality is the players were able to convey that "this is shit - and this needs to change" and I think in the situation he was in he had to. there have been subtle tweaks, for me the Burnley game was awful and the Chelsea game was "oh you complained that want sugar in your tea did you...... how's about the 5 teaspoons see how you like it then" and had us pressing high against a fast breaking team. The derby match was the perfect balance of solid shape and discipline with energy to support dcl who did an outstanding job.

The short of it is - he's limited. I championed him coming in so I don't need to learn about why we need him. I understand he's a firefighter. I'm responding to the suggestion that he couldnt be expected to do more with the players that he has. I think it's quite clear that the players have had their say and given some candid feedback as he confirmed himself... fair play for him to do that. I think it was last chance saloon though. It's not a case of expecting him to become something he isn't - it's about being less rigid, less predictable. He was doing the same thing match after match, the players looked beaten, the fans completely frustrated. It's not our best Everton side - but they aren't that shit to make them play like 1980s Cambridge United. I've not been too high on him and haven't been too low on him. The overreaction to our 4 game run was a bit cringey if I'm honest. He justifiably could have gone after palace at home. The fact that fans haven't kicked off more is a credit. I said in another post that he's done what it says on the tin, for that he can be thanked. Its not for us as fans to say who is good enough to replace him - yeah we could all go and plagiarise some footy hipsters review of some unknown South American league 2 manager who plays a new 33232 formation and will be the next city manager. Thats not our job but there are managers out there who would be chomping at the bit to manage in the PL.

So international footballers can't be expected to pass a ball? sorry Matt, talking nonsense not talking about him playing like city, I'm talking about working on creating a couple of overloads here and there.

Take Everton out the equation - If I was Sean Dyche I wouldn't change what I do, if I was a member of his family/coaching team I would say "why are you changing a product that there will always be a need for to appease one customer who wants something better". its like a golfer with an ugly swing that hits it 50 yards shorter than everyone else..... doesn't win anything, doesn't get people watching him but he makes the cut at most tournaments and pulls in a few million a year and lives a great luxury life. There will be people saying "make these changes to your swing and you will hit it longer and get lower scores and maybe win something"......... seen it a million times before - golfer gets lost in what they are being taught, it feels alien, they lose confidence and they lose their tour card and with that millions of pounds. it sounds like I'm making the case to keep dyche and his tactics - I'm not. I'm advocating hiring a manager who can coach a side to be a better team who can actually dominate and win games. Dyche when he leaves us will get the likes of Leicester, Leeds, or clubs being relegation threatened offering him good wages and hefty survival bonuses - because he will do the ugly stuff better than most like Allardyce. For me dyche isn't the manager to take us to where we want to be but he has stopped us going where we don't want to be. Thats fine, but I don't think he is the type of person to become expensive. It's not him.

Yep. Absolutely no way offer new contract. He's here to do a specific job whilst we are in a certain state. i hope there is no reason to play this brand of football much longer.... needs must and all that but we need an overhaul.

Not given enough credit for the Nunez save, great game, commanded his area very well - much better than usual.

There was a moment where he had a burst of pace to take the ball away from the penalty area. Gave me palpitations a few times but we sell Onana for £50m and keep gana and get Barkley on a free. hopefully we can get some pace in the side

Still got pace. Incredible athlete.

Are you making a comparison to Lukaku trying to steal Tom Davies goal and pointing at his chest to say "it's mine" when it clearly wasn't after Davies had literally ran the length of the pitch to score the best goal of his career ill make it short - absolutely no comparison. Dcl had 2 Liverpool players behind him and the ball was squirming, no way could he not follow that in. After it went in he went straight to branthwaite to celebrate and didn't feel the need to try and claim it.

Dyches admission that he had lost the dressing room has probably got the bounce we needed from the players. Let's not pretend he wasn't admitting he lost them - to accuse them of wanting him out so they could say hoorah to a new voice is pretty much saying that. Telling the press he said it was a last throw of the dice. His change of clothes was his gesture to the players that he will change. Anyone watching knew that the players were completely disengaged, I couldn't give a toss if you wanna be right about dyche - I just wanna see the team survive. I understand the smug giddiness - I couldn't sleep last night cos I was full of adrenaline. I'm not stupid enough to think that dyche is a great manager cos of it. These players are better than 45 points, these players are better than 14 games without a win. this is the issue with some football fans, 4 months of dross can be erased by a derby win and that's why we need to look at the season as a whole. If we had a board he would have gone weeks ago... make no mistake about that. He may get the summer to see what changes he can make, I personally don't think he coaches teams well. Our technical play is piss poor, we got the last 2 wins by out working the opposition. still buzzing and fingers crossed we make things 100% this weekend cos I'm not fully confident that we know what we are gonna get from this side and I want to watch football and relax for once.

In order dcl 10/10 branthwaite 10/10 gana 9/10 harrison 9/10 godfrey 9/10 pickford 9/10 tarks 9/10 the rest were 8/10

Fairs fair.... we had near 4 months of dross. The forum got red hot when people were looking at extending his contract.... let's not pretend it's been a knee jerk reaction. We've had a good week. im not convinced - these players as i have said repeatedly can deliver more. He said home truths were delivered on both sides - I certainly think this was the case. but - his expectation is to deliver survival and that was the highlight of an otherwise dreary season.

Top man tonight. Great performance

Get in blues!!!!

Need at least 2 more for my nerves