Shy_Talk

One more stinker and suddenly Barkley being so euphorically dropped will be spotlit.

Robles is utter congealed nodder wank, oh how I gaze back in my mind to the days of Southall and Martyn.....

Clown-Shoes, what a stain on our club, a stain on humanity, nice brogues though and a smile, what a great chap. Theres some prime dick-heads in our support, cull required.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day

Teach a man to fish and he might finish himself off with mercury poisoning by year end.

Anyway, thanks for the welcomes.

That united side is a shambles and we made them look competent. Obvious (oblivious?) red card aside, it was a trudge of a match, Stek has been training having watched recordings of Robles (EL displays) and where was our player to volley one of theirs into the stands? owhere cos that player doesnt exist.

Too limp wristed and wet-lettuce like when the opposition turn the match into a fight.

Gutless.

Positives..... another 90 minutes match fitness for Baines, and he exorcised that (pen) miss at mould trafford, got a point, another week closer to the January sales, the naysayers will have to find a new player to focus their ire upon now Bolassie is out long term.....somehow Koeman was satisfied.

Watford away on saturday early, Z-cars to run out too, wonder if the display will mirror those where z-cars is played in L4.

Record midfield signing (from summer just no less) crocked.

We lost Jagielka and Arteta to the same injury and Yakubu to a torn achiles in the same few months several seasons back, Arteta made it back but wasn't the same, Jagielka made it back and was near as damnit back to 100% and Yakubu effectively fell off a cliff and was never the same. So being thankful its not a ruptured achiles and hopefully its a smaller tear to his ACL that he makes it back fully from, 27 isn't old hes worked under pardew so knows how to surpass adverse situations.

Get well soon Yan.

Always be willow the wisp to me.

So, Barium Iodine Nitrogen Einsteinium, when will the chemistry return?

Rooney - yellow card rules him out of the Goodison match.

Just popped in to say the same. Now, if only the other ten can get themselves removed for the weekend.

He's only young, he's had a broken leg. aah

 

Younger men than him have lost their limbs and died for their county.

 

What's he doing ? He's only playing football ffs, people here treating him like a baby with a sore arse, He's a man so let's have no silly excuses for him.

Please, lets have the scathing critique for all of the other players involved at the club aged 18 and over, after all they're cannon fodder for you by your own rationale as well as ironically being potential targets for illegal wars overseas at the behest of whichever turncoat shit-heel is calling the shots on behalf of great britain nowadays.

One heck of a corner you've painted yourself into like.

Neither Koeman nor Bolasie are the problem. There is a malaise at Everton, a culture of just going through the motions. It took Moyes years to get to grips with it. I honestly believe the players have an attitude of "you get what you pay for".

 

They aren't earning as much as the big teams pay so they won't put those performances in.

 

Martinez spent his time putting pictures of Everton greats all over the place. I would suggest Koeman puts photos of Jack Rodwell and Francis Jeffers up to remind the players of how dispensable they really are.

 

They aren't special little snowflakes, they aren't good enough to get into the big sides and they don't deserve astronomical wages. They need to knuckle down, qualify for the Champions League and then come back asking for a pay rise.

Are you kidding? He can't be arsed remembering players he was working with 6 months ago, and if the manager can't be arsed what example is he setting.

I agree about the malaise though, but I lay that responsibility squarely with an ever growing section of the support, the support that couldnt see the back of Moyes and stab him in the back for good measure quick enough. We were drab, dire, dour and worth diddly when he took over, stuck in the doldrums and dreaming of dreams distant passed. Constant relegation battles..

No good deed goes unpunished and Moyes worked miracles, but the seismic changes made grew small because of familiarity and when he wasnt having us achieve top 4/5 finishes suddenly he wasnt good enough. Our support took him and his dedication for granted, now we are stuck looking around for the next hidden gem to be unearthed that improves us and then is moved on for big money. 'But but but' they say, 'he left for man utd' yeah he did, and cost us nothing for the privilege and left us with Stones as his last signing. clown-shoes needed paying off to the tune of near 11million pounds and signed 13 million pound Niasse and left us stuck with him. Some of our support I cannot fathom, I dont blame people for being stupid, but I do blame stupid people for being loud.(wankers!)

I'm unsure Koeman knows what this job is about, saints have been a regular selling club for years and are used to that turnover and making dowith the pieces of the solution available, promote the youth and tread water as well as possible. Thats not the case here at Everton, we arent a sell the silver every summer club, weve won titles and done business in europe, weve had the best players and led the way with what was once the best stadium. Making do wont fit here, Moyes was forced to because of the shit-tip he took over, granted clown-shoes has ruined a lot of that stability but this isnt the club Smith or Walker left, the playing staff are not so bankrupt of talent by comparrison.

Guns to gun fights, knives to knife fights, words to arguements and players on the pitch battling for the three points. The I'm not arsed, I can't see a problem, some players aren't performing attitude from our current manager is as bad as the dick head we've just binned, because all he saw was positivity and phenomenalness. I'm not accusing Koeman of being purposefully blind to the glaring obvious flaws in the side like the dick head he replaced. Yet.

If we could get a Martyn in, a Lescott, a Cahill and gone all out in the summer for Mario Gomez we'd be sitting better off than we are. It's beyond fantasy but Gomez was gettable.

 

I always pay attention, (in)famous for it me .

Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me....

I think Lukaku has to go in January, if not the summer. He is the only player we have that can command a big enough transfer fee to bring in 3 or 4 quality signings on top of some additional spending from Moshiri.

 

As it stands, having Lukaku in the side is utterly pointless, we would be better off with 2 or 3 strikers of equal ability that could hit double figures for us each season.

 

We definitely need a proper no.9 target man who will hustle and bustle defenders, but more importantly we need proper competition for places. There are far too many players who are safe in the knowledge that they can just go through the motions and expect to start the next game.

 

After the debacle at Southampton we can all but guarantee that an identical starting 11 will be put out against Man Utd, with the possible exception of Mirallas starting in place of Lennon.

We got lucky with Gueye as he had a relegation clause in his contract which allowed us to swoop in on the cheap, then we made a wad of cash on Stones that we used to over pay (apparently) for Bolassie and Williams.

Also the problem with flogging the best bits of the side is we end up substantially weaker, although I dont reckon it'd happen I'm not keen on chancing a relegation fight when we cant sign a player like Campbell to rescue us as there'd be no window now. Lukaku can earn his big money move to a CL regular and good luck to him, sulking about and no spark to carry the fight will have him on a nicolas anelka path instead of a christiano ronaldo path.

The Chelsea abortion hurts more than the saints no show, hopefully thats the case in May too.

I think Moshiri needs a robust transfer policy. I don't want to see us signing players who are 30 or will be 30 some time in the duration of their first contract.

 

You can get a "seasoned" pro on free transfers if you need to plug a gap.

 

We should be looking to sign younger players around 23-27 who are regulars for their respective teams and fast becoming that team's best player.

 

Hell it's working for RB Leipzig haha

Haven't the knives been out for Koeman and Bolassie since he (YB) signed? There were murmors Gueye wasnt right as he'd been relegated (where was this caution with smug-shoes?)

We might have to get used to the idea that fantastic cheap players rescued from beligerent managers frozen out elsewhere and great youth prospects are a thing of the past for us as the man who oversaw us make great achievements in those areas is now managing Sunderland. What his best side could have done with Gueye and Lukaku.

I praised you for a good post in another thread shy, but the one two posts up is in bad taste.

With respect Bill, you brought injured service personel and their physical achievements into the compare with Barkley conversation. Perhaps thats where things took a wrong turn. Perhaps.

 

"Eric without Idle" ? There was only one of him.

Making sure you're paying attention, you specifically

Don't talk about legbreaks mate, we have ex.Forces men with no legs running marathons and climbing mountains it takes guts and determination to overcome something like that.

 

Barkley's obviously got talent but he hasn't got the spirit to put it behind him, he's not the only one in the team that needs to knuckle down and pull their fingers out.

How many premier league assists do they have? Or does the prosthetic manufacturer get the credit?

In the famous words of Marvin Gaye, 'lets get it on'...

Robles

Stekelenburg

Not really Robles fault, brought in by clown-shoes to be another familiar face in the dressing room auto buying into the (#shudder) philosophy, makes Richard Wright look like Gordon Banks. Needs to go to help air out the stench of bullshit and mediocrity clown-shoes infested our club with.

Promote a youth to be backup GK, Steks not getting injured as he isnt putting his life on the line to punch someones head off when its required....

Baines

Williams

Jagielka

Coleman

Mori

It's a shame for Mori as no one wants a Lescott type left footer CB to turn up more than me but sadly Mori aint the cavalier rampaging headed goal machine Lescott was. Move him on for as much as possible, save the wages and push the likes of Browning, Galloway and Holgate into the supporting roles, we can all see Jagielka is nearing the finish of his respective race but he isnt done yet in light of bad team picks, no game plan and a dearth of options in the squad to win headers in the oppositions half.

Remember Alcaraz? Dear baby Jesus spare us all. clown-shoes, what an utter k*nt.

McGeady

Niasse

Gibson

Besic

We get nothing but evaporated wages from these four, BIN!

Cleverly

Wanted it to work because he can play football, has taken the Osman mantle well, its his fault even when hes not playing, little stench of the clown-shoes mafia.

Gueye

Bolassie

Barkley

Oviedo

Lennon

Gueye has been a good acquisition even if he is a bit of a short arse, Bolassie is our major chance maker (somehow) Barkley will come good when he is let off from being expected to be heir apparent to the former captain and permanent shit stain from over the park. We've youth players on the books, lets sack off the players we get nothing from and let our young lads earn a crust sat on the bench and learning from being involved from there.

McCarthy

Even though hes clown-shoes mafia hes well worth keeping because Barry is near done and along with Gueye will accrue yellows and bans so legs required and the running part is pretty much all his game is.

Valencia

Kone

Mirallas

Deulofeu

Lukaku

Dueler gets a pass by the skin of his teeth, I'm getting Barmby vibes from Lukaku (paranoia probably) Mira hasnt been right since that penalty, Kone is clown-shoes mafia and Valencia isn't good enough for a side that flogged Jelavic on the cheap.

99.9% of the responsibility for this shit-show lies at the clown shoed feet of our former joker of a manager, the one that took near £11million compensation out of our club after throwing £13 million big ones to god knows who in the Ukraine league/criminal underword/political party/toilet on a player he couldnt be arsed trying to get playing.

Thats 10 strikes, get them off the books, no point replacing them as you cant replace a wet fart, its a non entity, we get nothing from them so they may as well not be at our club. Save the wages, fuck the agents off, and lets give the new head scout super duper talent spotter his shot in full in the summer. Koeman has proven he likes his usual starting eleven and isn't for changing, so prop it up with the youth we have and limp our way to summer.

Hate Martinez (clown-shoes), hate his face, his legacy and the supporters that continue to champion him. Nice smiley chap though, I'd be smiling having screwed so much money out of a business I never gave a toss about.

Like Hale without Pace, Morcambe without Wise and Eric without Idle, our beloved Baines was always going to be a shadow when compared to the incomparible duo he shared with Pienaar in their halcyon days. A pairing that showed there was more to football than brute force, where quick thinking and quicker feet made the ball do the work and had every side we faced perplexed at how to solve the footballing rubix riddles they regularly rolled out. There were a few highlights to the regime we had before clown-shoes dismantled it and the Baines Pienaar combo was the master stroke.

Anyway, left backs with Baines class and capability don't crop up often so enjoy him running the flank whilst you can because we could be in for a journey through barren years with the likes of Naismith, Pistone and although an honest grafter Unsworth was no maestro.

I always look for that well used excuse "he's only young". London blue come up with it this time.

 

A 17 year old played for Spurs last week, another played for Southampton, and, another scored for the shite last night.

17 is young for the premier but 22.!! ffs men of 18 are dieing and being blown up in the forces.

At 22 Barkley's a Man and should be acting like one, please stop using that he's only young as an excuse.

 

No offence, but is the above from the little book of Bristow wisdom? We've had a player play for us, his name is Paul Gascoigne and although his age is 49 he looks like he's 60 and has always conducted himself in the manner of a 7 year old child turbo'd off his bonce off of haribo and sunny D.

So far as Barkley goes, I wonder if the very serious leg break he suffered and the long painful road back to full use and fitness has caused a mental block especially when its a kicking contest in the middle of the park. Also the pressure and expectation loaded onto him by blues and neutrals alike to follow up on his breakthrough season is a millstone around his neck because after all hes the latest in a long line of top talent produced from that famous Everton youth setup program.

Made the point elsewhere, the players we have that are useful on the deck can be bypassed by taking the game aerially and grinding us down with petty fouls and sly kicks on the odd occasion we get some time and space with the ball on the floor. We are too predictable and too easily bullied out of games, it isn't Barkleys fault he isn't a scrapper like Cahill or a tank like Yakubu or 6 and a half feet tall with a fro like Fellaini etc etc.

Oh, on a side note, Paul Scholes wasn't running that United side at 22, and that side had standout players almost everywhere. Shame on Ross 'Maradona' Barkley eh!

Backs to the wall we clear the ball up field, who's winning challenging contesting the header?

Other sides are grinding us down because the easy clearance option isn't so easy for us, we repeatedly clear the ball either into touch and give possession back or up field for a header we don't even try to win and give possession back. So midfield starts out from too deep and is bypassed to the flanks leading to yet another cross and pressure on our defence.

Repeat till the opposition score, we kick off and then gift possession away and we go again.

I understand that clown-shoes has done irrepairable harm to a number of players, players that now dont have the time to break the shackles of stupidity he insisted upon them. I expected Koeman to turn the brainwashing around, he hasn't. I expected him to then alter the starting line up to take the clown-performers out of the firing line, he didn't. There was rejoicing that he showed he was prepared to make early subs to change things when we were doing badly - great! - but why continue to set us up wrong from the off and stick to it? Thats a clown-shoesway of doing things (stubbornly sticking to a losing setup).

Anyway, stronger calls made by the manager required, and someone, anyone fairly mobile to try to hit with clearances and crosses that has some physicality about them.

No more shrinking violets.

For the first time in a long time we are enduring a prolonged spell of having no target man to hit either when we are in a tight spot or to be able to vary play and go a bit more direct.

In recent memory we've had Ferguson and Campbell, Cahill and Fellaini, clown-shoes seemed to recognise the issue of stature and temporarily brought in Traore seeing as Kone had gone off the boil. Koeman appears to have taken note and shoved Mori forward on occasion.

I realise Gabbiadini didn't move and perhaps he was the Pelle template player to add a bit of strength and aerial power to our front line.


Currently we are stuck with only a 'plan A' of playing and there is no one doing the nasty work of kicking other players like sides kick ours. We will not nicey-nicey our way out of our current malais. The supporters are frustrated and judgemental which has lead to a perceived lack of effort on behalf of the players, sadly we have a few too many similar types, yes I realise Barry is top dog for yellow cards but to afford him in the side we have to make up for his lack of speed with a worker-bee type player in Gueye, Barry was moved on from City because of this time induced impairment.


We either need a striker for Lukaku to work off because he (Lukaku) is a facing goal striker and poacher, a very very high quality one at that, imagine a tony cottee type but over a foot taller, 3 stone heavier and a lot stronger. (Struggles to impact games with aerial prowess, which is why Chelsea let him go as he wasnt the Drogba they dreamed of) Or we get a rough and ready attacking midfielder to hit with the ball and involve the midfield to then work Lukaku in.


Todays pitiful lesson at saints was a shocker because our expensive winger was crowbarred into trying to win headers versus their mob instead of being the player knocking the ball on. Amazing!


They kicked Bolasie, Lukaku, and Barkley, did anyone kick back? Carsley would have put a foot in, Cahill a shot in the guts and lord knows what game Van Dyke would have had against Ferguson.


It is very Everton that when we have aerial powered players to exploit we have no wingers, and now we have wingers galore we have no one for them to provide for.


We paid the clown off for steering the good ship Everton into the ice field. The harm (long term) he is responsible for. Laughing stock.

Or not as is very much the case.