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Yes, agree on that, been a mess. And would just like to add that one of the major important factors is who or what will be the owner of the club. I'm not too hooked on those casino partners really.

Copied from The BBC Sport pages. Everton's points penalty hurts the club at the worst time, according to former Toffees chief executive Keith Wyness. A two-point deduction for breaching profit and sustainability rules has dropped the club to 16th in the Premier League. They are two points above the relegation zone having already been hit with a six-point punishment, reduced from 10 after an appeal for an earlier breach. Nottingham Forest, 17th in the table, were hit with a four-point deduction last month and are appealing. "These clouds have been hanging over Forest and Everton and this is a time when you have players deciding if they are going to move on, it’s the time when they make these decisions with their agent," said Wyness, who was Everton's chief executive between 2004 and 2008. "This goes way beyond a points deduction of 'two points and that’s all it is'. It impacts the club in so many ways. You can’t get sponsors to commit because they don’t know what division they will be in next year, you can’t get players to commit. "The impact goes way beyond what should be considered a fair penalty for a breach." And I fully agree. The psychological factor cannot be neglected.

I still believe Martinez was told/ordered to ride on the wave Moyes (who was struggling quite a lot at times during his period for us) had made, but were given "free hands" for his second season where it all went wrong. I never saw Martinez as a particular good manager for us, but I do admit his first season was spectacular. But those were indeed other times, Palfy. It's a very different story now where we're desperately trying to survive what Moshiri and an incompetent board has done to us. A lot of work is waiting.

Some need more time than others, but I'm afraid Beto isn't the answer for us. Guess it will depend whether we keep him for the next season or not. But at this point he lack certain abilities.

Oh please, Palfy. Martinez didn't do anything but continuing what Moyes had build up for his first season. And then what happened?

It's that famous rock band, isn't it? Well known for their hit "Hit me with you best shot".

Very true. Though we learned from dunlopp that Gomes' hair is nicer ...

Clearly MoM against The Clarets,

Survey says: No!

After the match against Burnley yesterday. “We looked at how well we had played this season and not won,” said Dyche, “so we deliberately tried to play it long and strong and play the game as awkward and ugly as possible and get an ugly win and it worked.” Yes, it was ugly as hell and could have easily ended in a draw. Or worse. I just think it's a rather strange thing to say. Well, perhaps it's just me. Not satisfied with the play, but loved the three points.

Had a good game today if you compare to certain other players on the pitch. Think he made a difference and was actually surprised to see him play the full game against Burnley.

Not sure my health can take more of this

I think we played momentarily, just momentarily, better in the second half, especially thanks to Gomes and Brantwaite. A really nice and needed win for us in these hard times. All in all, we did not play very well at all, but we love a win home. 13 without was really more than enough...

Yeah. One can only envy their style.

Wrong move, Beto. You should have played it.

Yeh, he's tired.

Not the fastest man on the pitch. But works hard.

Fuck you, Doucs. No excuse for such sloppy passing.

What. Are you saying his modelling career is over?

Yeah. It's quite shocking when you think about it.

Get McNeil out! He's clearly tired.

Fuck me. It's a nervous lead.

Funny. The foul on Gomes from Cullen was much harder. But we know who's ref.

And a red card for Burnley.

Was surely a card for Cullen there on Gomes.