johny

not going to pretend I don't care but if they are daft enough to give us £50m for a player who spends about 40% of the time injured then sod it. last 2 seasons his returns have been 18 and 22 goals, all competitions. We can replace that for less than half the money if we spend it wisely. still, gutted though, obviously. f*ck him.

he's been there 19 years, it's hardly going to be the 1st time he's said something inappropriate. It is, however, the 1st time someones leaked it to the press. In other, totally unrelated, news Gray is taking the NOTW to court over phone tapping, part of a larger investigation which has seen a "former" Murdoch employee removed from a very influencial position in the UK government. it's a good thing I believe in coincidences... anyway, glad to see the back of Gray, maybe he could finally put his expert knowledge to good use and show the rest of english football where they've been going wrong over the years. 4-4-2, 2 on the posts at corners, always leave a striker up front when you're defending a set piece, and NEVER, EVER employ zonal marking. didn't everton offer him the hotseat once? fingers crossed eh?

i enjoy feeding the animals. I've already said on this thread I'm not after sympathy, I couldn't care less about it. I posted that article in here becasue when I read it, it reminded me of the direction this thread had taken, so I posted it in here. i enjoy reading blue250's rants, nothing wrong with a bit of passion even if it does come out like lemonade out of a badly shaken up bottle! Thanks for the concern though.

you've missed the point spectacularly, yet again. I posted the article simply because it does a good job in highlighting the different tactics of Benitez and Hodgeson, not as an excuse for losing. The fact that it uses our last game isn't relevent. Its the players fault wah wah. the same players that finished 2nd in 09 and 7th last year are now in the relegation zone, and out of the league cup to the lowest ranked team in the competition. Your posts remind me of them Brookside episodes when Jimmy Corkhill came off his meds. All shouting, waving your arms around and getting worked up over nothing. And Reg, you clearly care VERY deeply about the affairs of Liverpool

Interesting artical that sums things up quite nicely, in the context of two derby matches.

the ticket prices in Germany are very cheap compared to over here. The supporters over there have a massive say in how their clubs are run and how football in general is run. English football could learn a hell of a lot from the german 'model'. Also, the westfallenstadium in dortmund is, by a country mile, the best stadium I've ever been to.

Can't come soon enough, his tactics are the most inept I've ever seen at Liverpool, by a long way. Sets the team up to play to our weaknesses, sits back at home against Blackpool, and Northampton and allows them to attack us for 90 minutes, and makes the most pointless substitutions far too late in the game. Thats not even mentioning his annoying habbit of talking down our chances of a result before the match "Northampton Town will be a formidable challange", and claiming we played well afterwards despite being battered. Claiming we will be fine as long as we keep playing well enough to scrape a 2-0 defeat to the team in 16th place, for example!

Johny Regbane.

We'll Reg, you've done it. Proven me completely wrong there thanks to the musing of that great football mind, Barry DaSilva. If I was of a more cynical nature I was suggest that piece has been written soley to have a dig at Benitez. But as I'm not, I won't.

the ban was a level playing field, domestically. sorry to break this to you but it was deffo Peter Johnson that ruined you.

What are you on about you mad fool. You're calling me deluded, what is this European success of Hodgeson's you're going on about? His only suucess in over 30 years of management have been domestic titles and cups in the hotbed of European football, Scandinavia.

Reg, if you, the fans of other clubs, or Jesus himself thinks Hodgeson is a better manager than Benitez then it only serves to show how many people there are out there who need the media to tell them what to think. Did you read all about it in the Sun, perhaps? I bet all the Inter fans are dying to swap managers with us and blue250 IF I TYPE IN CAPITALS, AM I MORE CORRECT TOO? are you suggesting the two americans were good for us? seriosuly?? Your fall from champions in 87 had nothing to do with Hysel, the teams you were competing against domestically were banned too, did you know that? It didn't stop you breaking the transfer record twice for Linekar and Cottee, it didn't stop you building a championship winning side in 87, it didn't force Johnson to appoint a littany of crap managers either.

not at all too close to home, just your usual myopic views on Liverpool. You have a lot of them to be fair. I've blamed shit owners and a shit managerial choice, you (constantly) blame money and various referees when talking about the derby...you do realise half that post of yours was excuses too, don't you? Our predicament is down to poor financial managment, lack of investment, and a horrific managerial change, not too disimilar to the reasons behind your own fall from champions in 87 to relegation fodder in the early 90s. Oh aye...people, in football, only seem to like you when they don't fear you. Bring on the hate I say.

You're right, we'll start blaming the Referees next.

Reg, if you honestly think it takes balls to log on to a website you're taking the internet FAR too seriously. And Roy Hodgeson is one of the worst managers in the premier league. Had no idea why he suddenly became flavour of the month last season, Fulham finished bottom half, below Stoke, and scored fewer goals than Burnley. Surely it takes more than beating a seriously overrated Juventus team in a one off game to be considered better than Fabio Capello for the England job. He's hopeless, parking the bus at home against the team 6 places off the bottom of the league says it all about his abilities to manage. Not even in the same league as Allerdyce, let alone Benitez.

were you even born the last time you won anything? With any luck that will be Wibbly Wobbly Woy's last act for us. Apparently he can be paid off for £3m, which means we can genuinely avoid relegation for the price of a shit midfielder. Bargain, really. Enjoy it, it's not often Moyes gets to outwit a Liverpool manager, if you're really lucky Roy will still be here in April and you can bring 2 DVDs out in one season

I can just imagine Reg sitting there, crying into his copy of the Sun at the injustice of it all.

Reg, they defaulted on their loans in April, they've have no rights to anything for six months now. RBS hold all the cards. They have NO case, which has now been argued and proven twice in court. and MikeO...in answer to your question...Badly, demonstrably so. <_<

"They" didn't finance the deals for Torres, Mascherano, and Gerrard though. We, the fans, did. The money was secured against the club, they had absolutely no personal liability for that cash whatsoever. Without those loans there would have been an extra £40 million a year to intest in players and wages, instead we have had to deal at a profit in the transfer market since July 2008 to stay solvent.

the money they put in is more borrowed money, however it is secured against a holding company called Kop Caymen rather then the club. As part of the re-finance deal in april RBS insisted this money be turned into equity (absorbed into the value of the shares owned by Hicks and Gillet) rather than be held as a debt againsed the club. Hicks and Gillet are now technically in default of the RBS loan, and have been since March, so every penny that new owners spend on the shares will go directly to RBS. Hicks and Gillet (who by the way turned down a £450m bid last year hoping for more money) walk away with nothing except a usless holding company in £140m of debt and with no assets. And Reg, Hicks and Gillet appointed Broughton as chairman and gave him the power to sell the club from under them at the insistance of RBS, they were given no choice. The last re-finance deal was simply put into place to allow time for the club to be sold.

I think Broughton's being pretty canny, we're going to court in the main to determine whether the deal on the table is in the best interests of the club. The reality of this deal falling through is administration, which would be bad both on the field and off it. The crux of his argument would be that Hicks blocking the deal would not be in the best interest of the club, would reduce the clubs value in the short term and in the case of relegation, could decimate it. In effect Hicks is biting off his nose to spite his face, as unless he's going to pull a rabbit out of a hat and get finance by next friday, he's almost certainly lost that £140m anyway.

Roy Hodgeson with any luck.

haha couldn't give a damn about sympathy. just pointing out to the poster above that it's total bollocks. Funny as well really when it comes from a bloke who's overseen the financial ruin of about 5 different clubs. Always seems to get off just before it goes pear shaped as well. If I was a spurs fan I'd be sh*tting myself. I understand were you are comeing from though Louis, I've got a poster of Kenwright on my bedroom wall.