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If Paul di Resta gets Lewis 'soon to be killer' Hamiltons job, a think him and Button would make for the best iconic British duo since Torvil and Dean or Baddiel and Skinner depending on how losely the word sporting is Tom Daley is going to be. Personally can't believe how much hype there is for a diver. Johnny Wilkinson if you can call rugby a sport Phil Taylor Ronnie O and Stephen Hendry Lennox Lewis English football wise. David Beckham the only football one atm, although the blind England footy team are worth a mention. Before him Sir Bobby Robson, then all the way back to '66 for the rest. Then the great William Ralph 'Dixie' Dean Scotland and Ireland footy, Gemmill and Best

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11661_7209555,00.html Holden out for 6 months. Bolton will struggle this season

We broke our wage structure for Arteta 75+ but hes gone now After that Heitinga 60, Saha 55, Cahill, Jags, Baines, Distin, Neville, Drenthe 50k, Howard, Bilya, Osman, Hibbert 40k, Rodwell, Fellaini, Anichebe 30k, Coleman, Mucha, Stracq, Gueye 20k All guesses but shouldn't be far off. Fellainis wages will probs be on par with our top earners if/when he signs a new contact. These figures plus Moyes is about £40 mil then add an extra 'x' say £5 million for youth and staff. Or The Swiss guy had our wage bill as £54.3 mil 2010. So assuming Pienaar and Vaughan cover any wages rises there has been and Artetas wages used to pay Drenthe and Stracq. Beckford 25k, Yobo 40k and Yak 40k 105*52=£5,460,000 54.3-5.5= £49 million I may be way off but thats the best estimate I can make.

The second lot of stats only compares the results against the top 6 teams, which make it all the more shocking to the Gerrard lovers

Quite a recent stat. Amazingly, Liverpool actually average more points per game, more goals for and less goals conceded in the 23 games Gerrard missed, than in the 27 games he played in the last 50. His record reads: missed 23 out of potential 50, with those games comprising 11 wins, 4 draws, 8 losses (48%, 17% & 35%). The average PPG is 1.61. The average GFPG 1.87. In contrast, Gerrard played 27 out of potential 50, with 11 wins, 7 draws, 9 losses (41%, 26%, 33%). His contributing games accrued 1.48 PPG and 1.22 GFPG. But to make it fairer assessment the article also includes this The answer is not necessarily. Here is Stevie G’s overall record against top six Premiership sides taken from 50 possible games against top six teams dating back to 06/07. Playe: 39. Won 14, draw 11, lost 14. 36%, 28%, 36%. 1.36 PPG 1.15 GPGF Missed: 10. Won 5, draw 3, lost 2. 50%, 30%, 20%. 1.80PG, 2.0 GPFG. Source: http://www.sabotaget...g-at-liverpool/

Never seen the fuss with Gerrard. Avg. shooting (some nice goals, but hit and hopes really, a la Darren Gibson) Above avg. fitness (but not pacey) Passing below avg. (a few great passes but in general attempts and fails the hollywood ball too often a la Neville) Tackling below avg. (referees should be ashamed at the lack of reds and yellows awarded to him) Not much difference between him and Kevin Davies, which just shows how much it's who you play for and not how much ability you have that gets you in the England team. Liverpool win more with out him says enough

I'm biased towards him as I have been told I have a slight look of him, but with Baines hair unfortunately

Hope Bily starts, he done well las year against them

Howard Hibbert Jags Distin Baines Osman Heitinga Neville Drenthe Fellaini Cahill (or Saha) I has a sad

Accidentally clicking on a posters name on a thread instead of the date to got to last post grrr!

With citys investment at best you'll add one more team to that list, so what your point? Without it, Chelsea and man u wouldnt of invested as much and Liverpool and Arsenal are already weaker, that would have made the league much more competitive. Why have I just had to repeat that? Are you stupid? What part of this do you not understand? How does one more monopoly make it more competitive? The players are payed based on the income of the club, otherwise the shareholders would be making obscene amounts of money and other clubs would take all your players off you. City don't have a model they just take the piss. If a club cant grow with it's best player it should let them go, as we did with Arteta. We've humoured you for now and I really hope you are genuinely stupid, because you're clearly not clever enough to do a subtle troll.

For me Cahill going off is the only reason they got belief to score, before that the match could have went on till Sunday and i doubt they would have found the net. They seemed terrified every time we went forward, especially when we got set pieces. Am usually shitting myself when teams attack, I blame Jags for that, but against city I thought we were doing well.

Start a petition, no nonsense allowed unless there is a fit girl in view. Watching parliament on tv would be much better viewing, they already do it on ssn(although thats best of both worlds) and hollyoaks

Arsenal and your boring me now. Didn't claim no one had not bought in to it, all I was saying is the league would have been more open and competitive if city hadn't been took over This takeover specifically has been bad for the English game and possibly the rest of Europe. The extra champs league place coincided with Chelsea's take over before you throw that up and had a much less affect on the rest of the teams in the league.

The football was different, but in the 2nd half before the Cahill tackle/Kompany stomp, they were clearly frustrated running out of ideas and we looked the more likely to score even though we didn't get forward as much. We looked well on course to grab a goal and take a 1-0.

Me and few friends have had a chuckle watchin him as well. Jus shows how much he loves his dad(even though he's a ___ *) that he's willing to look stupid on tv. Think that every time I see him makes me think of his wife helps his like-ability as well *fill in the blank. Everyone has their own unique way of describing him lol

Spot on about them trying to join the monopoly. The timing been awful for us and the rest of the league though, just as Arsenal and Liverpool are falling down city barge/buy their way in, forcing Man u and Chelsea to further strengthen as well. The league would have been much more competitive overall if the arabs hadn't got bored and found a new sport to ru(i)n

He suggest people in general think we play shite football still, and we havent done in enough seasons for people to recognise we don't any more. Even the punditsacknowledge this now (even Phil Thomson and the 2 on MOTD, love the squirms on their face as they struggle to knock us anymore or that people know that their idiots and bitter when they do), although they took their sweet time to do so.

He was too biased towards the sky 4 and most possibly because of his employers rather than his own opinion. Jamie Redknapp does a great job and talks a lot of sense, as long as it's not Liverpool or Spurs. Steve McManaman was good as well. Slightly off topic but there is an awfully big slice of ex-kopites as pundits(I've named 2 as good but the rest are laughable) surely theres should be a more balanced quota, especially when John Barnes managed to get his own show and just spouted nonsense. Hanson is very hit and miss as well.

Wow does all your knowledge come from MOTD, last season a side Everton have been playing some of the best football in the league in the last 5 years. The 2nd half of the 2009/2010 we probably played the best football in the league, and as a city fan you should have know.

Spent money that was due to be invested only for the investor to disappear, and more recently raised the wages of our players thanks to the extra tv money, but with an extra boost to try and deter teams like city. If city hadn't been taken over theres no way Arteta would have got £75k a week, but even Anichebe managed to get significant wages thanks to Hull.

Pay off the debt, then we would be fully self sufficient. At the moment interest payments are killing us. It would also make Everton a more attractive investment as well.

Mourinho used similar tactics against Barca then won the Champions league. Playing that every week would be horrible to watch but once or twice a season is fine

Yellow for Cahill, red for Kompany no doubts about it. Turning point of the match as well.

We'd get no where near there, but would be significantly more than we get now, educated guess would be at least double the revenue now, maybe even more if you factor in the difference in running cost actually a lot more once you factor in the corporate functions as well.