java2001e Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 (edited) for the last couple of seasons, even when we finished fourth i think, we had a negative goal difference. will aj and bt upfront, and lescott and howard at the back fix this embarrassing problem? Edited July 8, 2006 by java2001e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 We have got to hope so, think and hope VDM will play a key role this season and Yobo and Lescott make a better partnership than stubbs and weir prospect of Beattie and AJ upfront has to. give us optamism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 the celtic game may prove that we will mean business next season. thats of course if we thrash em. if we can field a strongest side against celtic and athletic bilbao and win. i think we will all be smiling come watford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arteta185 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 nah were gonna be in -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 i defently think we will end up in + figures, if we dnt then theres something wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 erm its close to call, you can argue that we have more attacking options, but will be play to them, moyes likes his defensive play, and our midfield isn't defensively good enough i don't think, we'll still be under a lot of pressure and probably conceed as many as we score, don't expect a change in 1-0 wins and the odd heavy loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Hopefully Howard will do what we all know he is capable of, 20 - 25 clean sheets in a season would be bloody marvelous. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 ^ with out team? unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 yea very unliky, i would hope for 15 clean sheets and i would be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 ^ with out team? unlikely 36869[/snapback] With our improved defence yes, with the opposition having their hands full with our improved attack yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 ^ with out team? unlikely 36869[/snapback] Why not, a new central defense partnership, a jazzed up attack. If you can keep a clean sheet and sneak a cheeky goal, thats how we nearly got into the Champs League. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Why not, a new central defense partnership, a jazzed up attack. If you can keep a clean sheet and sneak a cheeky goal, thats how we nearly got into the Champs League. ATB Mac 36906[/snapback] I got there first Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 I paraphrased you Mark. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 All i can say is great minds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_webby Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 (edited) well for starters i can see any prem defense wanting to play against a front 2 of AJ and BT and with lots of teams rotating there strikers i believe they will start every game barring injury (touch wood) and should hopefully have a good partnership at the back love hibbo he is great but would mind a bit of world class defending at right back to be honest but i hope he has a great season again LES and JOEY as 2 centre halves apart from the the couple of top clubs i cant think of a good central defensive pairing finally midfield over run with players (ok maybe not on the left) LM arteta/killa/mcfadden/VDM/neville (nev if were desperate) RM ossie/arteta/VDM/mcfadden/davies CM arteta/cahill/neville/davies/ossie/carsley so dont think we will be to shabby so should concede less and hopefully score more Edited July 9, 2006 by john_webby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted July 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 quote=john_webby,Jul 9 2006, 10:47 AM] finally midfield over run with players (ok maybe not on the left) LM arteta/killa/mcfadden/VDM/neville (nev if were desperate) RM ossie/arteta/VDM/mcfadden/davies CM arteta/cahill/neville/davies/ossie/carsley so dont think we will be to shabby so should concede less and hopefully score more 37015[/snapback] yeah, the midfield is well populated. have to wonder why we bought so many when a striker was so obviously needed? carsley is good in midfield but will he get a game nowadays? weve gotta few youngsters in the first team squad now, like vaughn, anichebe, boyle and hughes. it will be interesting to see if they get much action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I think Moyes thought we needed a midfield to protect the defence before strikers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 possibly, dont conceed, dont lose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 good god , how bias are msot of you if you think 20 Clean sheets is a realistic aim at Everton ur inasane were a decent team, nothing special we wont be top 6 , get realistic ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 we can hold on to some blind optimism even if you cant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 good god , how bias are msot of you if you think 20 Clean sheets is a realistic aim at Everton ur inasane were a decent team, nothing special we wont be top 6 , get realistic ffs 37356[/snapback] Do you ever have anything positive to say about the club you say you support? If we are that shit and you feel the need to put us down with every post why bother calling yourself an Evertonian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 same old same old, its not putting down ffs its called being realistic, we are not world beaters... its not bloody rocket science, if anything my view takes soem pressure away, rather than you lot expecting 20 clean sheets ffs, get real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 ^ with out team? unlikely 36869[/snapback] Well its got to be better than with Wright in the nets hasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 ^yes it has, but that won't stop us getting outplayed a lot of the time, the midfield isn't difference, theres no1 protecting the defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 ^yes it has, but that won't stop us getting outplayed a lot of the time, the midfield isn't difference, theres no1 protecting the defence 37472[/snapback] Outplayed? Our midfield was the only shining light throughout last season, dont forget it was the same midfield that got us 4th in the league the season before! Our weakness last year was a dodgey keeper & 2 aging centre backs past their best. Yes we need a holding midfielder to help us dig in but we have a better midfield that the group of teams who finished above us last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 (edited) midfield is highly overrated, everytiem i saw us the mid was non existant, we played long balls from the back a lto of the tiem because otr midfield has no skill, bar arteta thank you for reminding me of the fortunate 4th palce finish, incidently ur forgetting carsley and gravesen, so no it isn't the same midfield, at all Edited July 10, 2006 by CraccerC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 how many games did you actually see last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 probs the 4-0 thrasings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 That's what my post was about, 20 clean sheets would be nice, and with Howard and a new, potentially strong central defensive partnership, why shouldn't people hope. C'mon Craccer, we are Evertonians, and hope is our credo. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 im hopeful, yet realistic and i saw qutie a lot, all the tv games, and i came back from leeds to watch a fair few home games, aswell as ones i found on the net too , withotu arteta the midifled is useless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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