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No not sarcasm, if he didn’t intend to play that way he would have gotten the message out to Pickford after 10 to cut the hoofing it up the field out, or it half time he would have cancelled it, but oh know he was elated by how well we were playing he asked for even more.

You say Allardyce should have been nowhere near the club, yet he came in to rescue a season that was in free fall and ended up getting us too 8th. Now from looking back through old posts only one person backed what he had done and that was PeteO, nearly everyone else including myself hated his style of football, then a few moaned about him throwing people under the bus in interviews after a game. For me the football is getting worse as the weeks go on under Dyche, and all this long ball stuff is disgusting and not what I want to see from any Everton team, and then for the manager to come out with the statement he did was cringe worthy, that the only tactic that he could come up with to beat Burnley, was to kick it long from the keeper and try to get a dirty win, if that was against City or Liverpool I may have given him the benefit of the doubt, but if he thinks that’s only way available to beat Burnley then we are fucked. And for me that alone makes him the worst manager we ever had at this club, talk the talk as much as he likes, but it’s blatantly obvious clear or should be that he’s in capable of walking the walk, he’s a absolute shit stain on this club.

Exactly this, let’s now channel our anger into coming together and galvanising our strengths to beat the drop and stick to fingers up to the PL, as the saying goes don’t get angry get even, let the higher hierarchy of the club fight an appeal, let the team and fans fight to win every point available to us before the end of the season.

Firstly they would be paid for the work completed to date, then they would try and negotiate a payment to cover any costs that they had occurred, if they couldn’t reach an agreement they would then refer to the contract, which wouldn’t say that Everton couldn’t stop the build due to financial constraints or difficulties, it wouldn’t say that if Everton did force Laing to stop the works that Laing would be paid a specific percentage of the contract costs. It would state the both parties should enter talks to reach an agreement, if no agreement can be reached then it goes to arbitration, where both parties will make a submission to the arbitrator who is a trained barrister or Judge who has extensive knowledge in contractual disputes, Laing would be pushing for loss of earnings, which they would undoubtedly win, that means they will be only entitled to what they made as a percentage of profits from their last full set of accounts, so let’s they there last set of accounts showed a net profit of 3% and the signed contract value for the Stadium build was 500 million, they would be entitled to a loss of earnings of 15 million and for any works completed.

I’ve covered most of what you have mentioned above.

Agreed a panic buy, but if he wasn’t and he had been a long time target of Dyche’s, then I wouldn’t like to see his panic buy’s if that’s what is educated buy’s are like.

The loan deals hadn’t been completely finalised hence MSP bailing us out for hundreds of millions and 777 giving us nearly 2 hundred million towards the stadium, and we still have a shortfall of some where between 1 and 200 million and need to borrow more to get it completed. When Usmanov was sanctioned and the position the stadium was in you could have renegotiated with Laing and come to an agreement on work completed, and costed costs that Laing can prove they’ve incurred, and if no agreement could be reached it would then go to arbitration to be settled. But we couldn’t have been forced to carry on, and the fraction of the cost to settle with Laing wouldn’t have seen somewhere near 1.1-1.2 billion in debt.

Not necessarily if they were all Portuguese and never had a clue who the ginger twat and his mates were, and they may have thought Gomes was a waiter if he tried to calm it down as well

To be honest Sev anyone would be an improvement on Moshiri.

Nearly spot on Rob fair play mate

Well that’s better than I expected as you can see from my post above. You could have been more considerate and posted this half hour earlier, then I wouldn’t have made my earlier comments

Your right they were different times and we may not have known it then but we would all rather be back there now instead of where we are now, but shit happens Sev and it’s how you deal with it that matters, and not just accepting it and letting it worse, and that’s what has been happening in my eyes particularly over the last 3 seasons.

Mine is 6 reduced to 4 they aren’t going to treat us any differently than they did Forest. If Forest hadn’t broken PSR I think it would have been a straight 6 points, in line with our last penalty after the appeal. Unfortunately Rob you’re trying too put to much reasoning on sensibility into your statement, but they seem to have made their decision’s before they hear the case.

Martinez out played teams like the likes of Arsenal, at Goodison we gave them a lesson in there own game beating them 4-0 I believe, they had never been so out played and humiliated like that for years, and there were many others that got the same treatment, but to say it was all Moyes is totally wrong, Martinez allowed the players in midfield and upfront to play were Moyes didn’t under him they were defenders before attackers, he would bring in some decent strikers, but they never shone under him because he never played too their strengths Martinez change that he played players too their strengths. The proof of that was Moyes teams lacked goals not the case with Martinez his teams revelled in goals. But I agree Martinez lost the balance at the end between attack and defence, which cost him his job which was a shame imo but holy justified, when you only win 1 in your last 10 you are gone, just can’t get my head around how Dyche’s not gone with only 1 win in 14 or none in 13, and playing absolutely shocking football as well, that just goes to prove that now the club lack any leadership from above.

We finished 12th in his last season and he got sacked due to just 1 win in his last 10 games, which is fair enough that’s acceptable most managers should expect to get the sack with that run of results, as Dyche should have with no wins in 13. You’re right he did allow the defence to become unreliable and couldn’t seem to correct it, for me we still played good football going forward and still weighed in with plenty of goals, but if we scored 2 he didn’t shut the game down and we would concede 3. I always felt that he needed to get himself a really good defensive coach to sort the defensive frailties out.

Maybe not in our lifetime, but what’s more important having a new stadium or a solvent club. Now we face the possibility of going into voluntary liquidation and if not accepted by the majority of creditors could turn into bankruptcy and the end of the club. Or the stadium being taken over by a company who then lets it to us, and takes all the profits from other ventures in the Stadium. Moshiri has gambled with our club ever since he took control, now I know more than most that in business most big decisions are in essence a gamble, but they are educated gambles, and in my eyes when you are already 450 million in debt you don’t take on another 800 million of debt and call it an educated gamble, without even having the finances in place to fund the debt. Newty said he felt the money was in position from Usmanov which it possibly was, but Usmanov was sanctioned before we had completed filling the dock with sand, the sensible thing would have to put a hold on the build when the dock was fully prepared until we were in a more stable position financially.

Martinez because we played some of the best possession football I’ve seen as an Everton supporter, and Ancelotti he showed us again how to play football when others before him and after him couldn’t. Besides Dyche who have you been happy with and why?

Look at Woods when he played for Dyche at Burnley he hardly scored because of the long ball game there goals tally was very poor, now look at the same player now playing in a Forest team that are playing passing football and he’s smashing it with his goals, but all Dyche could do was play him hoofing the long ball up to him. And we are witnessing the same with DCL and Beto, that’s not how they played their best under other managers, even DCL said less than a week ago that we needed to have more belief instead of playing the long ball all the time, and what happened was the complete opposite. God give me strength Dyche’s destroying everything I love about Everton and the way football should be tried to be played.

I think I need to lower my expectations and belief’s to fit in with the shite we are being served, but I won’t because they day that I think or consider hoofing the ball up the pitch is how football in PL should be played is the day I stop being a supporter.

We may have limited quality, but we have a manager who’s making what limited quality have pretty much none existent, unless of course if you think hoofing the ball up the pitch is quality. Try telling Coleman, Branthwaite, DCL, Pickford, Beto, ect ect that their not playing for the badge and the fans, I think every player would tell you to get fucked.

Fair play to you Rob I would never have guessed you were dyslexic mate, for me you are doing a marvellously good job at getting past your disability

I think you’re wrong mate the players would give a shit about the fans and the club even if they didn’t give a shit about Dyche, many many players over the years have stated how they loved the club mainly because of the fans.

Let’s do the time warp again

You don’t think or haven’t considered that he’s come out with shit like that, because clueless and incompetent of understanding or playing football which incorporates trying to keep the ball on the ground and pass it. Just a thought Newty, because it looks and makes more sense than “ I guess that’s what pressure can do to you “