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  1. On 13/03/2020 at 16:36, TallPaul1878 said:

    When is the correct time to shut the schools? It's easy when you're a contrarian who just wants to criticise the government in whatever it chooses to do. Close too early and you are panicking, close too late and you are negligent.

    You and I are not privy to where a country is in respect to the virus taking hold. This is a serious health hazard and people are still playing party politics with it. "Gee I hope there is a recession so we can get rid of Trump/Tories"

    Do you honestly think the opposition would have done anything differently? They'd follow the advice of the experts and sure as shit would still be worrying about the economy.

    I think you misunderstand me I wasn't criticising the Tories and just point outing that if it's spreading P2P then school closures are effective, I'm sure they're taking advice from whoever they should be and trying to the make an evidence based strategy that is not going to sow more panic.

  2. 1 minute ago, TallPaul1878 said:

    I can understand why the government are not shutting schools yet. 

    All the data from previous pandemics shows early closure of schools is absolutely the most effective way of slowing down transmission.

    Unfortunately mum and dad both go to work now, who will look after the children.

  3. Sam Harris has put out two very informative podcasts in the last 48 hours, listened to them both last night in a bout of insomnia. The latter had some positive news based on the country with the best testing (South Korea, they have drive through testing) the death rate is only 0.6% (6 times worse than the most recent bad flu case)

    Nicholas A. Christakis, MD, PhD, MPH, is the Sterling Professor of Social and Natural Science at Yale University, where he directs the Human Nature Lab and is the Co-Director of the Yale Institute for Network Science.

    https://samharris.org/podcasts/190-respond-coronavirus/

    Amesh Adalja, MD, is an infectious disease specialist at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security. 

    https://samharris.org/podcasts/191-early-thoughts-pandemic/

  4. 47 minutes ago, MikeO said:

    For me the pretence to carry on sporting events globally is just daft if you don't have a crowd; sport at the highest level (actually also down to the lowest) is about people watching, "behind closed doors" is just plain daft and defeats what it's about. Postpone the games and either wait until things are under control or write the season off; all sports all countries.

    It's only sport after all; we all invest a lot of time/money to it but we're getting to life/death which is a little more important. 

    Very idealistic Michael, majority of money comes from the TV so think the show will go on regardless.

  5. 5 hours ago, TallPaul1878 said:

    They're all wrong about coronavirus. Trump, like our government here, is trying to keep the hype down to protect the economy from taking a nose dive. Sections of the opposition are chearing it on hoping that an economic collapse brings about the end of Trump. People need to put their partisanship aside as we are talking about people dying from an infectious disease.

    Look at Italy now, have you heard the transcripts of the doctors? They're getting people in their 40s coming in and needing a ventilator, they're having to make decisions on who gets to go on a ventilator (over 60s might not get one).

    People in S. Korea and Japan who were thought to be recovered are coming back with reinfections. The number of recovered cases is really low too.

    We will know more in 2 weeks as it takes that long to incubate. I don't think people in USA and UK will self-isolate because our societies have collapsed and nobody cares about each other.

    Who is all wrong?

    Your post, after saying saying Trump is just trying to protect the economy actually highlights why his tweets are so irresponsible. Let's keep in mind he has the absolute best reporting and intelligence supplying him information and he's still showing zero understanding of the situation.

    One thing is sure, we're having a global recession and this is going to get much worse before it gets better.

  6. 7 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

    The most memorable thing about that election was just how poor Brian Kemp was as a candidate. He's the one who boasted he would drive around in his truck, gun in hand, hunting for illegal immigrants. Then he blatantly rigged the election. 

    This is the prime difference between the right and the left, the left organise marches and carry placards. The right (who are also often rural) get into positions of power and stack the system in their favour.

    Not sure I agree she is a bad candidate on account of her not winning when they are purging the electoral roll of people who would vote for her but lets just agree to disagree.

  7. 6 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

    I couldn't tell you the names of majority or minority leaders in the state, sorry. They mostly seem irrelevant, and I never watch TV. There was a lot of hype around Stacy Abrams during the governor election, but she didn't do particularly well. She came across as very naive, hence my earlier comment. The same was true of John Ossoff, who also stood in a well-publicized election and lost. Yes, there was considerable voter suppression, but I doubt it would have changed the outcome.

    You keep saying she didn't do particularly well but have you looked at the numbers?

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    Now look at 2014

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    23% increase in voter turnout, if I had to guess I'd say she mobilised both sides. One side maybe out of spite.

    with only 50k votes in it, I would say it definitely affected the outcome.

    “Kemp’s actions during the election were textbook voter suppression. His actions were strategic, careless and aimed at silencing the voting power of communities of color in the state.” Consider these numbers.

    • In the three months leading up to election day, more than 85,000 voters were purged from rolls under Kemp. During 2017 668,000 voters were purged, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

    GOP stole it, no wonder she refused to concede.

  8. 7 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

    Yes. I've lived in Georgia for almost 30 years - although I currently work each week in the New York area.

    Oh right, that's why I was confused I would have thought most people with a vague interest in politics would know who the minority leader was in their own state. (I know my own, not so much the other states)

    She actually did considerably better than previous democratic candidates with a 5% swing to her, from what I've read you have issues with voter suppression and she ran a very effective campaign to combat it. 

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/stacey-abrams-census-voting-rights-vice-president-953173/

     

  9. 5 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

    In Georgia, we'd never heard of her until she stood for governor. She did about as well as previous Democrats - nothing to write home about. She comes across as a bit naive and a lightweight, to be honest. We should we choosing leaders based on ability and experience, not because they tick the right boxes. Such is the age we live in, I guess: How well can we sell a brand?

    Sorry I'm confused, do you live in Georgia? 

  10. 1 hour ago, RPG said:

    At risk of opening up an entire second front of discussion on this thread, I have over my years as an expat 'migrated' from using toilet paper to using the bidet hose pipe, kindly installed alongside most bogs in this part of the world.

    I wouldn't have it any other way now. Cleaner, fresher, cheaper and better for the planet!

    My old man did the same after visiting Indonesia, have to say I also prefer it.

  11. 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said:

    She stood for governor in Georgia and lost. I'm not sure why all the hype.

    Not sure I've seen much "hype" about her so to speak, but do you think narrowly losing a gubernatorial campaign makes her less qualified for the VP spot somehow?

    I would have thought if she won, then that would definitely would have ruled her out, historically (this time might be slightly different with the pushing 80's candidates?) it's a bit of a nothing position and largely symbolic. Like Mark said from a base mobilisation perspective she ticks a few boxes.

  12. 9 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

    abrams and harris make the most sense, but harris is a US senator, abrams only was in the state house of reps in georgia.  

    at least that's how i see it, i'm sure others will see it differently.

    All I know about Abrams is from watching her State of the Union response and reading her Wiki's but she only just missed out on being the first African American Governor by a gnats chuff and has been a legislator since 2007 so on the balance I think just as strong as Harris. It's been fairly ordinary rich white men all the way back on that measure these two are both over qualified IMO.

    This is heart breaking, but also could be a positive. 

    https://fortune.com/2018/04/24/stacey-abrams-debt-georgia-governor/

  13. 6 hours ago, Sibdane said:

    Possible with Warren dropping out!

    If he wants to make sure everyone turns out it's one down from Biden Sanders lol

    6 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

    i'm hearing stacey abrams, kamala harris, or klobchar for Biden VP.  

    All solid picks in terms of succession planning, I think everyone should be able to agree there's no way Biden can do 8 years.

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