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20-year old winger who scored 12 goals and won bronze in the World Cup. Nothing in him, obviously.

Not that I believe this rumour one bit.

I thought he doesn't get along with Pardew (but then who does)?

And that story was linked in the Echo as well.

I was referring to the list of acronyms, which include "laser".

But back on topic, what Cleverley could bring is faster passing. Sometimes last season our passing was too slow to have any impact. Cleverley could speed things up.

 

Those are both nouns derived from acronyms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym

 

So do acronyms.

You mean like sonar or laser?

CEO is someone responsible for getting things realized, Chairman will initiate ideas and act as a spokes man. If a project is launched before the CEO is appointed, so what? Its the CEO and the project team to implement and ongoing project.

 

I dont talk about FSF because I don't know enough about it, same with NTL. I am not defending or agreeing because I havent the information available to formalize an educated opinion. If someone whats to show me project charters, budgets and timelines, etc. I'll happily educate myself and form an opinion. If BK is "factually" at fault, show me evidence.

 

Mark, you have a fair point. I should be pointing my finger at the old CEO instead of BK for Kings Dock, but since I can't remember who that is at the moment, and since it happened whilst BK was in charge, I'm finger pointing incorrectly because of ignorance.

CEO only executes the strategy set by the board who in turn are responsible for the owners. In our case these two are the same. It was the board - in which Kenwright is the chairman - that proposed the Kirkby project and despite being told that it would face problems & would be bad for the club, still pressed ahead. He had all the power in the world to stop the project.

FSF was - and this has been confirmed by Ian Ross - just a means to an end to get rid of Gregg. Who of course would have financed King's Dock but wanted more control of the club. Which didn't suit Bill. It had nothing to do with the CEO. Everton needed 30 million pounds. Gregg said he can provide it. Good ol' Billy came up with the FSF scam.

http://www.keioc.net/index.php?page=kirkby-our-view

http://toffeeweb.com/season/11-12/news/20308.html

Especially for Kirkby there's so much information that you should be able to formalize an opinion if you are willing to put in an effort.

I judge from what I've seen...see a lot of utd cos obviously they're on TV a lot and most of my mates are united fans so tend to watch it with them...I've just never seen him have a game that makes me feel he is worthy playing for this team...if he signs he will get my full support and I'd love to be wrong(I was wrong about Barry and happily admitted it)

So you thought Gibson etc. were great buys & McCarthy wasn't overpriced?

thought you would've at least picked up on the grammatical error to defend yourself mate!

Sentences start with a capital letter, btw.

I think most people haven't even actually seen enough of Cleverley to make a judgement. It's more a case of reading some crititique off the net.

And Hafnia's link is well worth reading.

 

and?

You don't seem to clever, do you?

Yeah, what does Martinez know?

 

 

"What has happened is not Tom's fault, I think he is as good a talent as we have in the English game, and he is still growing.

What is the going rate for a player who has played in the national team & is still quite young?

8 million is the new 5 million. If Sunderland is paying 10 million for Rodwell and Liverpool paid 26 million for Lallana...

Oh, and Arsenal paid 16 million of Calum Chambers. Hull paid 7 million for Snodgrass and 8 million for Livermore!

Gibson seems to be broken all the time and there are rumours he might be off to Burnley.

He also wanted to build the Kirkby disaster (and I'm not even talking about it being outside the city). He has lied to and mislead fans. He stopped King's Dock just so he could keep control. He has sold everything, borrowed and leased. Commercial deals are poor.He can't hire a good CEO to save his life and clings on to useless ones.

Increased TV money is the only thing that has kept the club afloat.

Sunderland are throwing money around like it's going out of fashion. 14 million for Borini, 10 for Rodwell??

Everton wouldn't get anywhere near what someone like Arsenal got for the naming rights.

There will be a big chunk of money that the club will need to pay. It doesn't matter is it's a lease where ownership is transffered eventually or simply a loan, club needs to cough up money every year for something like 20-25 years.

If we spend the extra income on the stadium it will mean others can spend much more on players making it a lot harder to keep up. A lot of that 33 million will quite soon be eaten up by wages anyway.

Even if they do announce something finding the money to build it is a completely different thing.

Old news & quite unlikely, IMO.

He sounds like a player Martinez used to find while at Wigan.

Yeah, a good defender but he would be a sub for Coleman. Hardly an improvement. And I don't think we can afford to pay 7 million for a backup defender.

Muhamed Bešić @muhamedbesic7 · 58m

Thank you @ferencvarosi_tc for all, now let's go for a new challenge @Everton !

Maybe: Baines to play in midfield, Oviedo in the wings?

48 hours is the new watch this space.

Didn't realise his contract is up next summer, so might be cheaper than I thought.