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Everton 2 Newcastle 2. Lukaku.

We're one good striker, defender and midfielder away from being a top team, some of the so called 'big' boys will be praying Martinez CAN'T get those players and tweak it, because if he does, few teams will beat us.

If we could keep clean sheets we'd be top 4, it isn't just going to suddenly happen. Can't see Newcastle beating us, mind you I couldn't imagine Swansea doing it.

The traitor thing wasn't really aimed at you, couldn't even remember who'd said it, you aren't alone I don't think in your thoughts on Moyes, I was just putting it out there that other 'great' managers (Howrad) have infact done things for their own gain. I think if Moyes came back, he'd put heart and soul into the job, probably because of how he left us, that I think could just make him a half decent shout. You say Moyes was all for himself, I'm pretty sure Martinez isn't that different.

Lost ? The reason I used the word 'Yawn' after one of his rants about Lukaku, was because that's exactly what I thought of the post......it's a forum, every one knows, he doesn't rate him whilst I do. So 'yawn', which I think you'll agree is pretty tame, led him into his usuall insults, including ' some kind of WBA fan', I've been on here for years more than that prat, but hey, maybe I'm not really an Evertonian ! As it's a forum, people have to expect people to disagree with their opinions, he's very good at telling people THEY are wrong and HE is right. He seems to have an image problem, he has to be 'RIGHT' or the toys are out of the pram.He keeps bringing people like 'rusty' into the mix why ? Is it he who has a problem with other members having a life outside this forum, I don't, good luck to all Evertonians in the skies or on the dole, we all have a common goal EFC. Maybe he's not a happy person, with no respect afforded to him in 'real life' ? The Lukaku 'thing' will never be resolved, if Rom goes on to score 30 goals in a season it will be because he's doing what 'Haf' said he had to do, no one who's read this whole pathetic thread can deny that. I've seen people agree with me plenty of times on this Lukaku thread. Perhaps we're all wrong.

Moyes a traitor !, that would make Howard Kendall a traitor in 87, we all loved Howard for what he did with Everton, but the man left us, simple as that, he could never have been certain that he would ever come back, so he was leaving for a new challange and more money.....why did Moyes leave. Yep Howard did come back but couldn't repeat those glory years, thing is we still love the guy.......even though he left us. Moyes kinda put us on the football map again after some poor seasons, cementing us as a pretty certain top 6 team, with at times some pretty good football, that seems lost sometimes amid the hatred of him leaving us to better himself. Point is on Moyes, not sure he's right for us at the moment, but there are far worse. On Rafa, he called us a small club, that was just to fit in with the rs, look at us over the lst 10 years or so, besides the odd lucky cup win, for money spent, livrepool are not really any better than us and most people know this. Rafa, I think he would do a job here, he probably wouldn't come due to the rs, but saying I wouldn't rule him out because of the banter 'small club' rubbish. Out of the two I'd try Moyes again.....unless we could get someone better. On Martinez, he's got us playing better than most prem team, we just can't defend or kill teams off..........if he would/could adapt I'd keep him.How long can we wait, end of the season maybe.

The forum needs all kinds of police, even Bullshit police :Grammar Police: ............who's paying for all this security!

Nah, think you'll fnd he's trying to push the stalker thing.Doesn't like any one to challange anything he posts. Interesting you didn't comment on the previous post, the one where he's telling me I'm no Evertonian with no interest in an on going match because I didn't post in the match thread !! The obvious thoughts of a deluded idiot. Maybe he's right about the match thread, I did't see Joe Royle post either.........Always knew he wasn't an Evertonian! Where on any other threads do I even bother to read his posts !........It's the Lukaku thing.He was right, Lukaku is shite and we will not get our money back on him.There that will keep him happy.

Sadly a possibility.

To be honest, we have had some bad luck this season, but do we only notice it when it's against us ?

How do you judge if a person shows no interest in a game ? So you state I showed no interest in The City game, let's see, how did your pathetic logic work that one out! Oh yes," HE DIDN'T POST DURING THE MATCH" !........................your right, along with about another 150,000 other Evertonians world wide. Let's see, some were at work, some maybe driving, some (god forbid) just watching on TV, hell some could even have been at the match !! YEP, because they didn't post on here, they weren't interested. You really are a twat.......but a funny twat because you really believe your own bullshit

Martinez has dropped some of the rubbish football from last season, don't know that he wanted to, but it looks like player and crowd/ player pressure got the result of less tip-tap rubbish for a more direct approach. If all involved with the club ( players, fans, share holders, chairman etc ) are willing to give him time, maybe he can evolve a bit more.Maybe with Martinez it's a slow process.Can he keep the big three (Lukaku, Stones and Barkley) and start to grind out results, tighten the defence, get us back to top 4/6. Or can he cash in on one of the above players and buy the missing pieces of the jigsaw to build a really great team.you could buy 3 pretty decent players with £60 million) I'ts a scary thought that he just might not be able to do either, or that out there somewhere is some one who could really get this club up and running. How much more time should we give him, that's a question as big as who should replace him.Liverpool replaced Brenda with Klopp, but for the usual bit of rs luck I don't see a better liverpool.

If we can avoid conceding a deflected goal, an own goal or a goal where the ref has missed an obvious infringement (hand ball or ball crossed the line).... ....we should have way too much for Carlisle.Because to be honest, we've been better than most teams we've played this season, we could and should have killed those off with ease, the worrying thing is why we couldn't. If on the other hand, Carlisle show more fight and willing, we will get what we deserve.

I've been an Evertonian since 1969, live too far away, yet have probably been to way more games than you.I just don't live on here like you do.I have an interest in Everton...........and many things away from the internet, maybe you should try it. What's your favorite TV show.

Oh dear, getting a bit rattled ! You, self secure ! your hate for anyone with attitude (Lukaku, Stones) shows that's probably exactly what your problem is. Tell us again how big you were when you used to play.

I was asked to take the job of 'Bullshit police'.........your the only member who keeps me in a job. The ' Lads off City talk', Michael Ball.........Twitter, you sad twat, you can't even fight your own battles.Does your dad hate Lukaku too.

Every post tonight from you is about Lukaku, every thread it's the same thing 'Lukaku' your fucking obsessed with him because he made you look the twat you are.He had a below average game, hardly anyone else is even bothering to mention him though, until dragged into a Lukaku debate by you, let it go you egotistick wanker.

Yawn.

Which 'Billy Bullshit' are we talking about !

We've had some pretty good displays this season, but someting IS wrong. Problem with our three £50 million players is they are still young and learning, Stones, Lukaku and Barkley are the people that the players and fans are looking at to make things work. Not that simple, Barkley just can't seem to settle and show his class, Lukaku needs better service and another years learning at his trade and Stones just doesn't seem to have his heart in it.All three on their day can be brilliant. The huge price tags are causing pressure on all three situations, you''d have to be blind/stupid to not see the massive potential in these lads and probably they are worth the huge fees, but, if the team are looking at the superstars to pull them through a tough match and at the same time have an off day we'er in trouble, like today, and it shouldn't really have been that tough today. Today was terrible to watch, I think it's going wrong on the training ground and with the coaches. Massive potential, not just those three, but most of the squad.!We should be pushing or in the top 4. We did have a bad start today, if Besics shot had gone in and he and Mirallas had stayed on, confidence I think would have kicked in.Kick in the teeth those three things, then dodgy pass back (penalty)....hand ball then wicked deflection all added to a crap day. Pity the fans, that was painfull.

Wonder if that's not on HIS mind. He'd probably like to triple his wages overnight, he's not an Everton fan

Awfull, Swansea don't really have much about them, but then, they don't really need much do they!

Everton 3 Swansea 1. Lukaku.

If you want to know where those people are, why don't you ask that member on here who knows everyone and everything, think his real name is Hugh Janus.

The Beriniho situation has been well documented, probably a brilliant exampe of what happens if you make a player miss out on a move and honour his contract.Liverpool could surely have only kept Saurez a certain amount of time before the sulks kicked in. Beriniho will still be picking up his fat wage.