duncanmckenzieismagic

When I first started coming in here around 2010 ish everyone was going way over the top with positivity and saying we were going to stroll into the top 4 and all the riches that Champions League football brings. I disagreed and said we had no chance because the board hadn't given Moyes the money to address our problem areas ( CF, RW & RB ) and I said I thought we had hit a ceiling and were if anything going backwards. I also had a pop at them for not getting Arteta and Piennar tied down and I was accused of being too negative Now we have come full circle and people are moaning non stop about Moyes and BK and I find myself constantly defending them because I feel some of the crap being said is way too negative and total bullshit and suddenly Im a happy clapper. The truth of the matter is Im probably somewhere in the middle ground. I don't think Kenwright can take us forward and I don't trust him to make the right decision with our new manager so I am very nervous about what will happen next. However some of the bollocks that's been said is unbelievable, He has been accused of hogging the limelight ala Dave Wheelan just because the Sky cameras were hounding him over the Moyes to United story. It was one of the biggest stories in world football, how was he supposed to avoid the cameras? Stuff like that and the comments I highlighted about Moyes are the reason I end up going on the defensive all the time Ive repeatedly said Moyes isn't perfect, what manager is? but as I also keep saying I just feel he is a damn sight better than some people in here give him credit for. That's not a sly dig at anyone that's just my opinion

Add Bryan Robson to that

Well for the record Im not even pro Kenwright My stance on him , and I have said this before, is that I will always be grateful to him for rescuing the club from Peter Johnson. I also firmly believe that he is a passionate Evertonian and that he genuinely wants what is best for the club. However I do think he is naive and that he has made some well documented colossally bad decisions since being Chairman. I don't think he has the nouse or the money to take us forward and I think it will be a good day for Everton Football Club when he steps down But to call him a liar is going too far IMO. Moyes on the other hand I am a fan of. I think he is the best possible manager that we could have had and I honestly don't believe any manager that we get next will do any better than him or even as good as him without significant investment That's not to say that he doesn't have his faults and I have acknowledged that there is definitely a case to answer that we have always bottled it on the big stage. I have also criticised his constant use of Naismith. There are obviously times when he has got it wrong, laying Neville ahead of Gibson in the FA Cup against Wigan springs to mind, and my biggest bug bear is that he has never taken the League Cup seriously Some people in here would have you believe that Moyes is tactically inept, only picks his favourites, is too negative,never gives youth a chance, cant make subs and has no plan B ( they are all quotes not something that Im making up) yet he has just landed one of the top jobs in world football. To me that doesn't add up and me defending him doesn't strike me as being childish, somebody has got it wrong somewhere and I don't think its me! I have only ever accused one person in here of being a doom monger ( Haf ) so that is far removed from me saying everyone in here is a doom merchant. I do find it laughable at some of the comments I read in here at times but people are entitled to their opinion just as Im entitled to mine so I couldn't really give two fucks whether you think my remarks are snidy or not

Lol He would probably sack himself as soon as we lost 2 on the trot anyway With Regards to Round and Lumsden the chances are a new manager wouldn't want them anyway so cant say Id be particularly bothered if they left

Lol If it was upto some of the people in this forum Moyes could and should have been sacked everytime we conceded a corner, luckily our Chairman wasnt so trigger happy and gave him the time he needed to turn the side around

I agree with all but the highlighted bit although I dont beleive for one minute that he hadnt thought about the possibility that Moyes could leave and had a few ideas of possible replacements, even if they hadnt explored those possibilities

http://news.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/football/premier-league/gamble-developing-on-redknapp-taking-over-at-everton_156219.html 'Arry down from 66/1 to 16/1 !!

I heard on the Radio City sports bulletin this morning that Everton are beleived to be making an official approach to speak to Martinez today

And how is he supposed to do all that when there are no players here to assess?

http://threeandin.com/?p=20682

Do you think the new Everton manager will play 2 upfront?

Totally agree, its just the usual we want, we want ,we want , now! now! now! Nobody has got a clue what is happening behind the scenes, what if the rumours of Pereira signing a pre contract are true or if its even true that they spoke to him in April? I wanted it sorted as quickly as possible but Moyes hasnt even officially left yet so to start the BK bashing already is a bit ridiculous

Lo yeah because our squad is way too big and needs trimming down

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/21/phil-neville-everton-manager

That's pretty much the way Im thinking too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22566739

Are we though? http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/apr/18/premier-league-finances-club-by-club

I cant see why people have got a problem with BK coming across as emotional and I don't understand how that would be in anyway detrimental towards a new manager. Do you think the likes of Martinez or whoever is sitting there watching BK on Sky sports and saying wow that fella was incredibly loyal to his manager and cares deeply about his club, I would much rather work for the likes of Blackburn where the Chairman is clueless about football has no emotional ties to the club and would most likely sack me if we lost 3 on the trot, I better swerve Everton?

Yeah he does sound promising but again I don't know anything about him so couldn't really give an opinion

Because he has seen the potential the lad has got first hand and he has played a big part in nurturing his talent

Don't get me wrong Peter I would be very disappointed if we do promote anyone from the backroom staff into the managers seat, but to be honest I am decidedly underwhelmed with any of the candidates linked to the job so far. Benitez is probably the best of the bunch but I despise him, Laudrup looks a non starter and I don't really know anything about the Portuguese fella so I'm kind of pinning my hopes on Martinez, but even he worries me I know any new manager is going to be a gamble but as Howard Kendall said the other night Martinez has had years to sort out Wigans defence and has failed miserably to do so, his Premiership record is woeful , albeit with mitigating circumstances, but on the other hand I do quite like him and admire his brand of attacking football. I wouldn't mind seeing him with someone like Neville as his number 2 but I get the impression Martinez wouldn't go for that. I think the bottom line is that we simply cant attract any of the top managers so gambling on a young manager with potential makes sense

http://news.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/football/premier-league/bolton-boss-the-big-mover-to-be-next-everton-manager_155208.html

Because we haven't got the money and the top managers would never go anywhere where they had to manage with one hand tied behind their backs

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8718332 Good point made by Howard Kendall in tonights Echo "The bookies clearly think Everton’s next manager is going to be Roberto Martinez – and while I respect him as a coach I have my concern about his side’s defensive frailties. Martinez has been at Wigan for a few years and yet they’ve gone down with one of the poorest defensive records in the league. Everyone admires the way Martinez’s teams try to play – but ultimately they’re in the Championship next season. He has had plenty of time to sort out why Wigan concede so many goals and hasn’t managed it. It’s a point worth considering. You’ve got to beware of style over substance. They used to call Arsenal boring years ago but they nevertheless won trophies. Now they’ll pass you to death but win nothing."

http://myevertonnews.com/have-everton-bid-for-flying-porto-winger/