Noble Savage

I didn't think we would sell anyone but I think if we do it would be Johnny (which is a shame as I rate him quite highly nowadays ) and we would replace him with a cheapo like that Tavares (?) guy. However, I trust David's judgement when it comes to defenders . He usually spot on .

Yeah , I think the are trying to regain some focus. They still want to push for the board to appoint some professionals to sell the club and/or to get some answers regarding who,when and how much. The message has been diluted somewhat recently but they are sorting themselves out before Febuary. I still don't fully support them but I'm quite impressed with the amount of press they got , and wasted.

I'm trying to be optimistic but I can see Saint Bill thinking of excuses in the last couple of days in January. I really can't see Moyes getting any money. Voted one , Donovan.

I don't think a permanent deal would ever be viable and not just because if money. Two months is certainly better than nothing when it comes to this quality player with a great work ethic. As I said before , I hope this isn't the only option open to us. Moyes must have some of the Arteta money. I would be rather miffed if Saint Bill thinks this is all it takes to appease the disgruntled group of fans which looks like its growing. However , kudos must go to Saint Bill and Moyes for this piece of good news.

Great move Moyes but I hope the transfer window isn't all loans. A few permanent incomings would be most welcome. Good start but hopefully it is just a start. Can't wait to see him in January.

Wasn't the boy wonder supposed to sign a deal this week ? I haven't seen anything yet on the official site. I'm getting slightly nervous.

Now that is a perfect analogy .

Apparently Moyes made an approach for Henry on loan. That's Thierry Henry. Looks like any cash Moyes has is either ringfenced ( ha ha ) for a creative force or is no existant. I would cheer for the former and the Union would gain support for the latter. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/mobile/football/gossip_and_transfers/9660123.stm

Yeah ,my missus would like that.

So you should mate. I honestly lived in ignorance till I read your posts and followed up your words by using my own research and making up my own mind. For that you have my thanks. Another piece of humble pie, I really didn't rate Heitinga wearing Royal Blue but recently I have had to change my mind.

The best post I have ever read on this board ( not by Haf ) ,especially the rather deep analysis of Bily. Superb .

I agree , let's hope Moyes can use him a lot more in future. Coming on as a sub for a brand spanking new striker in January.

Either way , its frustrating. Either he's telling porkies about the number of interested parties ( just how many parties has he said recently , half a dozen? ) or the board are asking for an unrealistic deal. Here. Over to you Avin. Lol.

Good old Jags .

I'm feeling lazy and I thin you are by far the most realistic person here so I would appreciate one of your posts, ya.

My concern too ,especially as Bill said it was too late for Moyes to spend it when Arteta left. How much of it has been dwindled away by this and that.Don't forget though, he wasn't the only player we sold ,so I would like to think we would have at least the Arty money. Back on-topic , I do agree with GoodisonRoad , for once I'm going to be positive

I see your point mate but it really hasn't worked out for the best so far in my opinion. We made a few quid on other players and I'm still not sure that Moyes will have enough money to more than compensate for the loss of Beckford. I agree , financially it is a great deal but I reckon a bit of competition would work wonders for the King.

Good deal for who though ? Personally , I think at this moment in time he was kicking around Goodison and the money not in a bank vault. Sometimes I'm a little wary of posting here for the amount of venom spouted off. Such a shame as you chaps have made this place a very intelligent and witty Symposium .

His poor kids and missus .

As a lot of you have said , he was a great bloke . Didn't blurt out his issues with Everton even after he retired. Integrity . Class. I was distraught after he left us. R.I.P you midfield dynamo and decent human being.

I really hope Moyes gets at least the Arteta money but will probably have to make do with the Beckford cash. I can't see anyone leaving unless Man City need a new left back or someone is ready to spend big on Rodwell. The B.U and the fence sitters will be watching .

I love Wrighty .I also like Saint Bill but it's the same answers. I know a lot of you are going to say "same answers because there's nothing more to add " but even as a fan who isn't as clued up as a lot of you , I'm struggling to accept there isn't anymore to add. No updates on the "3 or 4" interested parties including Jain . I'm sure at least one board member can contribute more than "expertise" ,even though Bill tried to say they didn't have any dough ,listen carefully. I WANT TO BE WRONG!!!

Just read the emails . Meh, not that damaging in my opinion.

I'm a big Haf supporter in as much as I wholeheartedly agree that saint Bill or at least the board has to go. I lived in real ignorance until I started following his posts. The problem is I really can't believe he SEEMS to be making a sale hard work. Or is he lying about possible sale options. I really don't know. All I know is that I have become pessimistic . When handing out a five year deal to a player becomes the highlight of near half a season I find it hard to be anything else. I really want to optimistic like a lot of you , I really do . When you start pinning hopes on groups like the Blue Union you know something wrong. I find this debate on this forum far more entertaining than anything else this season. Thanks guys .Truly.

It really should be but it isn't I'm afraid. What annoys me most (more than lack of a warchest) is the real possibility that those youngsters and relative unknowns our tremendous scouts pick up are sold to cover the Fuck ups made at board level.