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Agree. We need hunger and we need players who have as much fight as natural ability. We also need people in the dressing room who can get players passionate about playing for Everton again.

Appointed the wrong people. Regardless of who was giving him the advice, he is culpable for listening to it.

https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/19-20/squad.php What that list does highlight is just how much player turnover there has been, which although necessary I'd also destabilising. We got nowhere near rebuilding the squad the way we needed to in the summer, which is why we're still seeing Schneiderlin starting and a woeful Sigurdsson sulking. It's a really shit situation. But we have to make the best of what we have. And for me that means a new manager who will inspire and give a few young hungry players a chance, rather than just expecting chronically underperforming players to come good. Because let's face it, we all accepted the likes of Williams and Bolasie were busted flushes. Why would we expect any kind of turn around from players like Schneiderlin and Sigurdsson?

Schneiderlin gets it more than most because he has been consistently poor and ineffective for longer than anyone else in the team. Sigurdsson wouldn't be far behind imo. I don't give a fuck about injuries. If you keep playing out of form, limited, disinterested players, whatever it is with them, you will not win many football matches. That's a key reason why we are where we are. We can change the manager, but until we're bold about changing the playing staff too, we're going nowhere.

We've got loads out on loan. I reckon we should be pulling a few back to play for us coz there are players turning out for us right now who just aren't worthy of pulling on the blue shirt and we are in shit because of it.

Then let's just keep playing underperforming, overpaid, under motivated, rank average 'seniors' who at this rate could drag us into serious relegation trouble.

Chelsea's best young players are playing in the PL!

Our U23s have been good enough to win back to back PL2 titles, they can't be that limited. I'd rather be fielding players who have the potential to improve than 'senior pros' who you know will contribute next to nothing positive.

As a successful lawyer and businessman he should be able to recognise when someone is taking him for a ride for their own ends. My own feeling is Brands hasn't been ruthless enough. And our summer transfer work is looking like a complete embarrassment yet again.

Bailey you sum up the massive contradiction of everyone who tries to defend him. He wasn't that bad - apart from being a very limited footballer who fucked up for a goal He constantly lets runners go. And we shouldn't be fielding limited footballers!

It's a formula that didn't work under Koeman and doesn't work now. I agree with you on Sigurdsson's movement. I'd say Schneiderlin offers the same problem in a different area of the field. He just isn't dynamic enough or clever enough and gets found out time and time again.

But that's the madness of playing Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin in the same side. One plays too high, the other too deep. We've been conceding the middle of the park doing that for two years

Just been on Soccerbase and had a quick count. I make it that Schneiderlin has featured in 17 wins out of 50 Prem appearances since the start of 2017/18. I'm not sure what his win ratio is but I'd put money on it being even less than one in three. I just cannot for the life understand how he is still playing for us.

This is what really worries me.

For me there's a mix of him not having as much conviction in the way he supposedly wants to play as he likes to pretend he does, and being utterly clueless about which players work best in his preferred system. He seems to believe in getting the ball wide and getting balls in the box - fine, why did he drop DCL just as he was starting to score? When we have played Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin together, we might as well not have a midfield. Regardless of the Gomes injury, why go back to something that was disastrous under Koeman, nevermind his own spell in charge? Regardless of all the money spent, we're still playing the same formation, the same ineffective players as two years ago. He hasn't had the strength or the nous to come in, look at what's not working and make the right changes, even if it means upsetting some 'big' players. He simply can't carry on.

To be fair I've been trying to be patient, this is another level of incompetent. We've lost to all three teams that came up. Two at home.

Don't think it counts a ls a Xmas present in November

Sean Dyche would be bright enough not to pick fucking Morgan Schneiderlin and Cenk Tosun

I was gobsmacked anyone on here said they were happy with a team that included Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson and Tosun. Delusional thinking a team featuring those three can compete with any team in the Prem league. Silva is clearly delusional too and massively out of his depth. Another dreadful appointment by Moshiri. His position is untenable but I have zero faith Moshiri will get it right next time. What a fucking mess.

I'm afraid Moshiri is a big part of the problem. Club has been a mess since he got involved.

I have to say I really dislike this revolving captaincy bollox. Sigurdsson has been poor this season, what's the point of giving him the armband to reward that?

I don't think we do. A lot of the time we play a clear three up front, or at least two wingers who's job is to get up and support the CF. I think the main problem is that we are consistently wasteful in the final third, whoever the front three are. Playing Richarlison and Walcott in a front three, you'd hope those two alone would chip in with 30 goals a season between them. Whether we're not linking from the midfield well enough, or delivery from our fullbacks isn't good enough, or the forwards we play just aren't taking their opportunities or being clever enough in their movement, I don't know. But regardless of our issues at CF, we could and should be scoring more.

Except he's yet to score...

There was something said in 5 Live on Saturday that "the rumour was" we'd go for an interim manager again if Silva is sacked. Personally I think that's madness, I'd rather give Silva til the end of the season. Regardless, we've won three of our last 5 games. No manager will get sacked on the back of that.

Didn't Richarlison score after Tosun was taken off??