Newty82

Hahaha!!! Got in from work and as always read the SSN transfer info on me phone. Read about the Barkley contract (btw, is this the 2nd signing Martinez talked of?!!!)...scrolled down and noticed earlier in the day a conference had been called. My first thought was get onto TT, bound to be a thread with a load of excitement! Great news he's signed. But think the Everton media team have gone into overdrive with the announcement and hype. Such a bizarre club!

So much politics in football behind the scenes...players, managers, agents, owners, image rights, commercial rights, players rights, right to have rights right. Crazy.

Im down with that.

Agree with some of this and some of Matts views. They have a good manager in, but I highly doubt that at interview they said to him 'we are going to sell Shaw, Lambert, Lovren, Chambers, Lallana, maybe more.....'. I think Koeman will be feeling a bit pissed just now. Southampton have a good recent history for bringing through quality and selling on. That's always been there model. I think this shows it doesn't matter how rich the people are who own the club. Mostly these guys are businessman. And the name of the game in business is to make money. As much as possible. And that's how the owners will see it....'we got player x for 8.5mill last year, now we can get 20mill for him, yes please'. There getting shit loads of money for players they've spent the football equivalent of naff all on. On the flip side, they might surprise us and spend a whole lot on new talent...although reading an interview today with their chief exec, talking about having the youth to fill the gaps, I highly doubt it.

Still not panicking! From that last echo article I read that we need 2 more players before the start of the season, 1 needs to be a number 9. Then more before the window closes. We'll see who comes. Pretty exciting really, because you just know that someone is coming. But another Lukaku loan? Not for me. I e season fair enough. More than that and it just feels wrong. The bit I'm really interested in is when the Window closes, doing the sums on what we spent, what we should have had etc. Just to get a picture of how secure, or not, we are financially.

You can see that near 90 degree bend in Bill and Bobs fishing rod as they try to reel the big bastard in. Puuuuuuull.....puuuuuuuull...

Absolutely. We have been used as an example of how to do things on the pitch. But Arsenal are the example of how to do it off the pitch. They are going to be very well off soon. And it's all their own money. Brilliant planning, great future vision. They nailed it. And their fans still whinge? Shows that despite what we write/say...A lot of us fans have no idea. Sorry to digress off topic there!

Yes you will you naughty boy! 'Get him' or get out, yo' get me?! Bit more strength added to the squad. Good to see. We know we need strength in depth. Very welcome signing. (Liking his trainers too...anyone know what they are?)

My memories too shit for this sort of thing!!! But reading your lots rings a few bells!

Anyway....back to transfers. I'm pleased that we are adding these potential 'stars' to our team. I think we all know that's the market we deal in. We have good recent history of plucking out some gooduns. And I believe Bobby is going to implement a great footballing culture through the club. I am also sure we will add that goal scoring striker to the team. We don't all agree on much, but I think we all agree that we have been missing a 'figure head' striker for years.

I used a lot of soft tissues as a teenager. Wink wink honk honk.

Because it can take days before fully realising how long? Usually the manager is answering straight after a game or the next day. Soft tissue is quite a broad term...muscle, ligament, tendon. Most footy injuries are soft tissue. Basically he's saying 'worry not, he ain't broke his leg....'

I don't think they've had no impact, I just don't think they are the cause of the problem. Mahooosive difference (read what I said about culture and kids football). But as above, leave it at that. Coooooooooome on Henen (whoever you are!)

But, anyway, let's not hijack another thread with another Newty vs Cotto Bitch fest. Not because I like you or agree with you (bit harsh that I know) or anything, but because it probably ruins the thread/forum for other people.

Right. So 90 and 96 prove that we weren't pretty crap before Johnny foreigner arrived? Tell me what happened at USA 94? Your kind of missing my point a little. Or maybe I should have said 'history shows that before the foreign influx we were neither better nor worse off than we are now'. Your talking about 'of late', I'm talking about 'full stop'. We've just never been that good. Actually in 96 we had our lowest ever FIFA ranking (27th). In 2012 we had our highest ever(3rd). That's deliberately not a very good argument from me, because neither is 90 and 96.

What's bollocks? And what's your point about 90 and 96?

On the Martinez second season stuff...don't forget Moyes yo - yo'd positions too. It wasn't always high and flying. I don't think we'll drop away this season, but it wouldn't surprise me if we dropped 1 or 2 places, nor would it surprise me if we climbed a place. We are firmly in that bracket. Transfer wise... I also hope it isn't just 3 in as that isn't enough. Unless he sees more in these youngsters than we do (surely not possible?!)

Be fuckin fuming. I'm not thinking along these lines at all at the moment. BUT IF that were the case...be hell on. A lot of questions. Hmmmmmm.

Hope this kid does well. We all like a kid to turn into a goodun. In terms of the foreign influx ruining our national team and home grown talent. That's bullshit for me. On a par with the lazy man who argues 'the foreigners take our jobs'...but then turns down jobs because he 'is above that'. Anyway, just bare with me, the reason I think it's bull is that the foreign influx only really got into full swing from the mid to late 90's (was this due to a change in squad quota rules or something?). Before then, as a national team, we were still pretty crap. In fact, when it comes to football, we live to much by the mantra of 'we found this game, we must be the best'. We did nothing to progress our game for donkeys years. In the late 90's, it was the french model we needed to copy. Then it was the Spanish model. Now it is the German model? It doesn't matter which model we copy, we are still English. And that's the problem. It's a cultural thing. We just don't get the game. Well that's one of the problems for youth....then you have funding cuts, less pitches, increase costs for parents, dropping numbers, less teams, crap facilities, less coaches, too much red tape.....

Sturridge will do well though. But not as well as Suarez.

It's not about them doing 'well' but doing 'as well'.

Probably aimed at the fact that 48 hours seems to be the Everton time line at the moment? Or apparently so!

I blame the parents.

Get in there! Come on boys, all together now... I'm Everton till i die...Everton till i die...I know I am, I'm sure I am...Everton till I die! Wonder if that's who sorted the socks out? Oh, any good up front too?!!!

My thoughts too. A massive miss for them. How many goals, either directly or assisting, was he responsible for last season? He was dynamic. He played like he was told he could go after one more big season. Like Fergie did with Ronaldo. Them fuckers are being daft if they think they'll do the same this season without him.