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Interesting read that Romey, and the question posed is right. Where do we go from here?

 

There is no doubt we not only want investment (we NEED, and, are really desperate for) investment.

 

I would say God help us but he gave up raising the dead 2,000 years ago.

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An amazing stat (if true) that someone has put in the comments of that article in the Guardian:

 

"In Moyes' time in charge:

Only Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea have secured more points in the league than Everton.

 

This is on the 15th biggest transfer spend (less than £2.5m a season) and the 11th biggest wage budget (now £25m a season less than Villa)."

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An amazing stat (if true) that someone has put in the comments of that article in the Guardian:

 

"In Moyes' time in charge:

Only Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea have secured more points in the league than Everton.

 

This is on the 15th biggest transfer spend (less than £2.5m a season) and the 11th biggest wage budget (now £25m a season less than Villa)."

 

But what about in the last two seasons!! Prior to 2008/2009 we had a reputation as the 1-0 specialists with signs of our football improving, therfore only our points haul would look impressive. I suspect the stat will be very different now. Moyes team is now superior playing more flowing football compared to then yet is actually less effective - why is that? I don't believe its the quality of player but Moyes choices, at the same time i'd be devastated to lose him - perhaps an new No.2 is needed which could be a lot more interesting discussion.

 

Tacticaly: Coleman came in because we were short, not out of choice. Saha yak & beckford are all good enough to score regularly. The Baines/Piennar/Cahill was a Key threat which we can't go back too now. Bily is not a left winger yet needs more space & time. Arteta is playing sideways all the time and Anichebe hits the floor more than flicking-on the long ball. Is it time to go 4-3-3..?

i.e.

Baines, CB, CB, Neville/Coleman, Bily/Osman(MC), Heitinga(DMC), Arteta(MC), Saha/Osman/Bily(AML/SS), Saha/Beckford(CF), Rodwell/Coleman(AMR). Obviously you'd need to somehow unleash Baines - but wouldn't we be creating more chances/craft in the final Third?

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"In Moyes' time in charge:

Only Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea have secured more points in the league than Everton.

On the basis that the only competition would be Villa and Spurs...

 

Since 14th March 2002...

 

Everton 502

Spurs 498

Villa 468

 

....don't think it's going to be true for much longer...we were twenty-six ahead of Spurs at the beginning of last season :unsure: .

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I think we need to stop sounding like liverpool talking about the past and think what we are going to do now. I actually think we went out against Reading thinking we had it in the bag and got stung. We have been playing well. Possibly Beckford getting dropped for being late disturbed things and changed are game plan too late in the day but I agree that rules are rules regardless of traffic its up to you to know if there is traffic!!

 

As for all the glume and moaning. One thing I am proud about being a toffee is sticking by the team no matter what and not whinging about things. We have to accept we dont have money and we just need to do our bit and get behing the team as its the only thing keeping good players here. If that goes then we can kiss goodbye to Fel and Baines and I honestly think the Neviller thought about spurs!! The fans passion has a good hold on players!! Especially when you know there is no money coming!!

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