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#1 java2001e

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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 06:45

to play 4-3-3 youve gotta have a reliable midfield and strong defence. we are now looking good in those areas.

is 4-3-3 a possibility, at least against weaker sides?
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 07:17

Perhaps... I'm more concerned at what a couple of injuries could do. VDM and Hibbert are not looking too good now and the season's not even started.
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 07:26

Maybe we could play it in cup games but against decent opposition i reckon we'd really struggle with 4-3-3. Can see Moyes playing Cahill just behind the two strikers though in some games and maybe even use Faddy their. Whoever starts the Bilbao game will most likely start against Watford and same goes for the formation. Doesn't seem as if Moyes has moved away from 4-4-2 in pre season so expect thats what we'll play.
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 07:31

Weve played 4-3-3 with limiterd or some succes when chasing games late.

Personally feel in situations akin in the future that we will be all the better for not having Duncan leading the line.

Not Duncan's fault but the natural order for players was to start lumping it long in those situations. We have more quality than that.

Im a big fan of a 3-5-2, but I recall us trying that @ Chelsea a cple of seasons back & getting funkin flogged all over the park.

Got to have the correct cattle to play that style, though the Herd we are assembling ceretainly on papaer looks much more flexible than in recent seasons.
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#5 Romey 1878

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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 12:03

I'd be a nervous wreck if we played 433 tbh, it might be worth a go though
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 12:06

give it a try agaisnt a weak team in a cup game or somethin'. cant see moyes using 4-4-3 tho as like someone said he has stuck with 4-4-2 through pre-season
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 12:32

Upon further thought I would still play a 4-5-1 V's Chelski etc like we have in recent times, stack the Guts with perhaps Cahill playing of a lone ranger.
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 12:40

Hibberts missing start of season; been confirmed so Neville likly to play RB

4-4-3 is a option but i cnt see moyes playing tht
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 12:49

Perhaps... I'm more concerned at what a couple of injuries could do. VDM and Hibbert are not looking too good now and the season's not even started.

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Wouldnt worry about it.............Done without vdm last season, and Neville and Pistone are adequate cover for Hibbo.
No probs. :)

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#10 StevO

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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 14:04

443? lets drop the keeper then :lol:
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#11 Ola

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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 14:12

443? lets drop the keeper then :lol:

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:lol: teflon drops everthing so were all right there :lol: :lol: ;)

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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 14:15

^^lmao!

a 4-3-3 can easily be reverted into a 4-5-1 but we will usually stay with the latter and theres nothing worse than seeing balls lumped forward hoplessly - there was a 4-5-1 fetish around for a period last season or last - dont wanna c it happenin again thnks!
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 14:34

ooops seen my mistake now :P
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 19:08

4-3-3 with our midfield? we'd get absolutely arse raped
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 19:10

4-3-3 with our midfield? we'd get absolutely arse raped

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Read the posts mate, people are saying when we play weaker teams we should perhaps be a little more aggressive in our approach to certain games.

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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 19:11

^ i did, but i stand by my point, we're not good enough to play 4-3-3 against anyone in the prem
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 20:38

Craccer you dont think we are good enough to play 4-4-2, 4-5-1, 5-4-1 etc etc
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 21:42

ah back to this again....

it's not just a half hearted opinion, it is fairly well backedu p in my eyes, look at it this way

if we play 3 up front that's all well and good if you can provide them. but this would leave our 3 midfielders needeing to create and we only have 1 of them that's creative, and therefore it would be a lot easier for a team playing us to null our threat by taking him out the game and still havign a spare man in midfield

another point, to play 3 center mids genuinly it would be ideal to have some good alround players, especially good defensively, only really neville has that, well he kind of does compared to the rest

and to finish it off, our mids will have to take up more responsibility defensively, taking cahill out of beign a goal threat which is his main strength and only real asset

with all points considered, cahill less effective having to stay deeper, the midfield beign easier to overrun, , and the lack of creativity we would have which is greatly needed would result in us not really doing too much in my opinion apart from a lot of ball chasing and inviting a lot of pressure. even agaisnt the lesser sides of the league, they're still good, well disciplined (in the most part) professionals and they will hurt an average team playign in that formation, if we struggled against sunderland last season with a 4-5-1 we're not exactly going to immediately start outplaying people with 4-3-3 are we?

as said before by myself, goldy, and a few otehrs, we're on the way up, but getting good takes time, we haven't got the quality players such as chelsea, we couldn't pull off this formation, not just yet anyway

my opinion anyway, atleast you can't say i didn't argue my point
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Posted 11 Aug 2006 - 23:31

Hate to seem like I am agreeing with Craccer :D but I don't think with 3 up front it would make much difference/ Whilst I don't think we have a bad midfield I think we are lacking in creativity and if we have 3 upfront will we still only have 1 player likely to create opportunities in midfield so unless we are gonna play long ball I can't see 3 making much difference.
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Posted 12 Aug 2006 - 14:30

I do agree with Craccer but i still think that we could play it against realy week teams but maybe with 2 striker playing a little deeper to then thread balls to the higher striker
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Posted 12 Aug 2006 - 15:50

A 433 would need two pacey, hardworking wingers and a compact defence because playing two wingers means that you'll lose possession a lot more than what you'd normally do. Also you're vulnerable to the counter.

A 451 would work better, definately. Johnson up top all on his own and McFadden/Cahill sitting behind him, maybe?
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Posted 12 Aug 2006 - 16:38

^ possibly yeh, because 4-3-3 doesn't really ever work, chelsea's wasn't really an out and out 4-3-3, they only coped because they were playign wingers
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