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Some good signs tonight but plenty of extremely frustrating parts. The guy is lumbering but did get into effective space at times and tried to push through as he fought for the ball. However, when we don't have the ball, he is a liability, slow to get back, rarely puts a foot in, looks like he's running underwater and may as well not be on the pitch when we are defending.

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For me Fellaini will come good. I keep saying to people the same thing. He needs to to settle in. He's come from Belgium, into England. The English game is way more physical and fast. He will be wanting to put less challenges in and expect to be injured once a season, where thats not how things are run in England. For me he needs time to settle to the quick English game, the physical side of it and I'm sure that the millions will be well paid. He's scored one fantastic goal, there's surely more where that came from. He will be good for us, we need to be patient.

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He had a great first half but faded in the second half. Does he have fitness problems I wonder?

He played all of the internationals so could be tired. Also the EPL is a lot more full on than the rest of europe so he may just need to get use to the pace and learn how to ditribure his energy evently through the game.

 

Back to his performance though, very similar to last week, good in the first half quite in the second. Though that personafies the whole of the everton performance in the last two games

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I genuinely believe that he will adapt and this time time next year we will singing the praises of the Mo Fellaini. I'm not looking forward to Man Utd but sometimes in the face of adversity you can get the result you need. I think a few wins are imminent.

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It seems he picked up a dead leg just before the end of the first half.

 

 

He should have left it where it was cos he's already got TWO DEAD LEGS and he does'nt need any more. :D

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Very average player and showed it again against Arsenal.

I have fingers crossed he will surprise us with a super 90 minutes but I don't see it happening anytime soon.

 

We must have been watching different games. Sure he didn't finish the game but what he showed in the first 45 was very promising. Won a truck load of contested headers and not only won them but put the ball in good positions. He even disposessed a few of their midfielders by foot on ocassion and they aren't just your run of the mill midfielders either they are world class. Didn't waste the ball when he had it and all this at the age of 20. I think people see players like Fabregas dominate at age 20 and expect anyone of any quality to be able to do the same, but look at Mo's body composition, it's a known fact that taller more gangly athletes take longer to grasp the co-ordination and skill needed to play any professional sport and the fact he is as good as he is at this age shows how good he will become. Your entitled to your opinion but I hope we can come back to this thread in a couple years so everyone can see how wrong you were.

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We must have been watching different games. Sure he didn't finish the game but what he showed in the first 45 was very promising. Won a truck load of contested headers and not only won them but put the ball in good positions. He even disposessed a few of their midfielders by foot on ocassion and they aren't just your run of the mill midfielders either they are world class. Didn't waste the ball when he had it and all this at the age of 20. I think people see players like Fabregas dominate at age 20 and expect anyone of any quality to be able to do the same, but look at Mo's body composition, it's a known fact that taller more gangly athletes take longer to grasp the co-ordination and skill needed to play any professional sport and the fact he is as good as he is at this age shows how good he will become. Your entitled to your opinion but I hope we can come back to this thread in a couple years so everyone can see how wrong you were.

 

 

A couple of years. :o :o at £15 million pounds i hope its a couple of weeks, rather than years.

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We must have been watching different games. Sure he didn't finish the game but what he showed in the first 45 was very promising. Won a truck load of contested headers and not only won them but put the ball in good positions. He even disposessed a few of their midfielders by foot on ocassion and they aren't just your run of the mill midfielders either they are world class. Didn't waste the ball when he had it and all this at the age of 20. I think people see players like Fabregas dominate at age 20 and expect anyone of any quality to be able to do the same, but look at Mo's body composition, it's a known fact that taller more gangly athletes take longer to grasp the co-ordination and skill needed to play any professional sport and the fact he is as good as he is at this age shows how good he will become. Your entitled to your opinion but I hope we can come back to this thread in a couple years so everyone can see how wrong you were.

 

I would agree with this post. On th face he hasn't looked like the player we hoped. But realistically, he cam in days before the season started, is still learning the language let alone the players and the team and has been involved in some of the hardest games anyone could wish for. The level of competition he has faced must have been daunting and it will be the same against Man Utd, but I took hope from his first half performance. You can see he is starting to understand our movement, where people wil ikely to be and wasn't fazed by Arsenals quality. He did seem to tajke a knock toward the end of the first half and you could say it was coincidence that Arsenal began to dominate in midfield which gave them the upper hand. Until then, Arsenal were rattled, shoddy and didn't look like they knew how to get through us. Felliani gave them a bit of the unkown I think. He has shown flashes of what he is capable of and I believe he will grow in to one of most important players.

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We must have been watching different games. Sure he didn't finish the game but what he showed in the first 45 was very promising. Won a truck load of contested headers and not only won them but put the ball in good positions. He even disposessed a few of their midfielders by foot on ocassion and they aren't just your run of the mill midfielders either they are world class. Didn't waste the ball when he had it and all this at the age of 20. I think people see players like Fabregas dominate at age 20 and expect anyone of any quality to be able to do the same, but look at Mo's body composition, it's a known fact that taller more gangly athletes take longer to grasp the co-ordination and skill needed to play any professional sport and the fact he is as good as he is at this age shows how good he will become. Your entitled to your opinion but I hope we can come back to this thread in a couple years so everyone can see how wrong you were.

 

Nope watching the same game as I was sat in a box and watched the whole thing. I admit I looking at him with very critical glasses on as he cost so much and he is living up to my expectation. You made me laugh with your "gangly athletes take longer.........." rubbish, if you are an athlete you are an athlete. You are not a gangly athlete so poor/below par performances are acceptable.

I live in hope he will come good but as Licker has said, I am talking weeks not years for him to come good. Even Moyes himself has admitted players that he expected to come good have not, that smells like Fellaini IMO.

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Nope watching the same game as I was sat in a box and watched the whole thing. I admit I looking at him with very critical glasses on as he cost so much and he is living up to my expectation. You made me laugh with your "gangly athletes take longer.........." rubbish, if you are an athlete you are an athlete. You are not a gangly athlete so poor/below par performances are acceptable.

I live in hope he will come good but as Licker has said, I am talking weeks not years for him to come good. Even Moyes himself has admitted players that he expected to come good have not, that smells like Fellaini IMO.

 

 

That's probably more aimed at the likes of Lescott and Howard but I'm sure Moyes is a little concerned by Fellaini. I only listened to the commentary on the Arsenal game but he did sound like he had a good first half, as did Rodwell (future star I reckon), but a bad second half. He took a knock which probably played a part in a bad second half and the whole team were shocking second half so it's a bit unfair to single him out. He is going to need to step up for us soon though because, even though it shouldn't be the case, we NEED him to.

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Rodwell, as I have said before, is going to be our gem this season. He is so composed for a player of his age you can just tell is on his way to becoming a massive player, I just hope he continues to stay loyal to Everton and not get tempted away. IMO a better player than Fellaini even at such a young age.

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Rodwell, as I have said before, is going to be our gem this season. He is so composed for a player of his age you can just tell is on his way to becoming a massive player, I just hope he continues to stay loyal to Everton and not get tempted away. IMO a better player than Fellaini even at such a young age.

why do so many people on here chat shit, he obviously isnt now but he could be.

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I don't think rodwell is as good as Mo at the moment and doubt he ever will be. I stand by what i said about tall, gangle athletes mate they just take a bit longer to completely fill out and learn how to use their bodies properly. Maybe I am just trying to be optimistic about Mo because i would hate to see so much of our money be spent on a player that couldn't perform but i think he is showing positive signs and will be a real player for us in the next year.

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The lad needs time to settle before making a proper judgement, from what i have seen he looks like a decent player given abit of time.

I have to disagree about Rodwell Jesse the lad has the means to become a top player in my view.

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A couple of years. :o :o at £15 million pounds i hope its a couple of weeks, rather than years.

 

remember though bill. it took drogba a year to find his feet. at 24 million i was laughing my head off at the fact chelsea spunked loads on him and he was awful. but he settled in and he took the prem by storm.

 

Ronaldo took 2 years to find his amazing form and he cost quite a bit.

 

 

 

i know things are bad right now but he is slowly but surely improving with every game.

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^^^^^ Good point.... and probably a true one too... although.... we dont have money to waste like Chelsea and Manure..

 

If that WAS our whole transfer kity.... then we need results sooner rather than later.....we carnt afford to have 15million sitting on the bench or not performing..

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Let's not forget Schevchenko cost Chelsea £30m and he started shit, continued to be shit and still is shit.

 

Oh and Ronaldo is not a good comparison as even when he started he was impressive straight away, the form he was in last season was best in the world by far - hardly where Mo is heading for.

 

Still want Mo to turn out to be great Everton player despite negativity towards him at present.

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I genuinely believe that he will adapt and this time time next year we will singing the praises of the Mo Fellaini. I'm not looking forward to Man Utd but sometimes in the face of adversity you can get the result you need. I think a few wins are imminent.

I hope so - on all of the above.

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Personally I think Fellaini is a class player, but he has not yet settled in. We still need some midfield bite at the moment.

 

He may just come good this week, however I am not holding my breath just now.

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Fellaini is already scoring for us, he's just not keeping up off teh ball. In my mind we still need a solid center mid to anchor the team, fellaini is an attacking mid, and we need someone who can stay in the center of the park and provide some stability and movment.

 

God how we need moutinho........

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Fellaini is already scoring for us, he's just not keeping up off teh ball. In my mind we still need a solid center mid to anchor the team, fellaini is an attacking mid, and we need someone who can stay in the center of the park and provide some stability and movment.

 

God how we need moutinho........

 

 

Well he most deffo isnt that..............

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I agree with what your saying and whatever Fellini is or supposed to be hes not doing anything constructive at the moment...

 

Point being id be looking seriously about dropping him on Saturday.....

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Well on those terms we should drop the whole fucking squad. Fellaini has been one of the better players over the last few games. You say he hasn't been doing anything "contructive". Well who the fuck else is? Only Jags is performing consistantly at the moment. Should we drop everyone else?

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He doesnt get stuck in............. hes allways getting cought out of position..

and for a big fella he carnt fucking jump......

 

and yea I would, id dropp all of em if we had another options..... but we dont......Why do you think the Yak still gets a game

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I'm sorry but Fellaini is getting stuck in more than most of the midfield.

 

And im sorry but saying, "yes i would drop them if we had other players" is ridiculous. We don't have other players, so we can't start saying, drop him, drop him.... when we don't have any options. Fellaini is improving with every game, anyone going to the games can see it, i'm not going to say "give him time..." or any of that shit because I think he is good enough now, he is getting more engrained into the squad. The problem many fans have with him is having the wrong expectations of him. Labelling him either as a defensive mid or an attacking mid. He's neither. He's just an all round central player.

 

IMO dropping him now would be a bug mistake. He is improving and is showing some grit that other players arn't at the moment. If he wasn't improving then i'd rest him, but he is improving so we have to play him

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Even if we're not saying drop everyone, we need competetion for places to get people motivated. If felliani thinks he'll be starting every match it will make him complacent, if he thinks he may not get a place he'll play that much better to cement his place.

 

The Yak needs dropping for sure, he's been lazy as of late, and i think vaughan or anichebe need a start, at least a chance to do what we know they can.

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^^^^

 

Fellini is a defensive mid............ Mountino isnt

No he isnt, Moyes said when we signed him he wont play carsleys role aka DM but he is more in the tim cahill mold of player.

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I think hes playing more of a center mid role for us but he plays for Belgium in a defensive role and played there for Standard...

 

I wouldnt compare him to Cahill.......

 

And im sure it will show at the end of the season

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I think hes playing more of a center mid role for us but he plays for Belgium in a defensive role and played there for Standard...

 

I wouldnt compare him to Cahill.......

 

And im sure it will show at the end of the season

He wasn't been compared to Cahill. It was a comment from Moyes saying that he was closer to Cahill as a type of player than he is to Casley.

 

It wasn't a comparison. Just a comment.

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He is 'slowly' improving but still got a long way to go.

Moyes sums it up well,

 

"He is playing OK" ....

 

"He was shattered afterwards, the speed of the game in midfield, box to box, is something he may not have experienced. You will always make mistakes at 20, but I will be interested to see what he will be like at 23, 24."

 

Now to me, 3 or 4 years is a long time in football. Let's hope he improves quicker than this.

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He is 'slowly' improving but still got a long way to go.

Moyes sums it up well,

 

"He is playing OK" ....

 

"He was shattered afterwards, the speed of the game in midfield, box to box, is something he may not have experienced. You will always make mistakes at 20, but I will be interested to see what he will be like at 23, 24."

 

Now to me, 3 or 4 years is a long time in football. Let's hope he improves quicker than this.

For me he is impressing now. People need to look past the price, its fairly irrelevant now to be honest. I think what moyes was getting at in his above quote was that if he is playing well now, imagine how well he could be playing in a few more years when he has started to hit his peak.

 

I can't see how people can still be criticiaing him.Second game in a row where he has been a very strong contender, if not the actuall, man of the match. People need to forget there grievences with him and with his fee and look at the prospect we have in our team.

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We must have been watching different games. Sure he didn't finish the game but what he showed in the first 45 was very promising. Won a truck load of contested headers and not only won them but put the ball in good positions. He even disposessed a few of their midfielders by foot on ocassion and they aren't just your run of the mill midfielders either they are world class. Didn't waste the ball when he had it and all this at the age of 20. I think people see players like Fabregas dominate at age 20 and expect anyone of any quality to be able to do the same, but look at Mo's body composition, it's a known fact that taller more gangly athletes take longer to grasp the co-ordination and skill needed to play any professional sport and the fact he is as good as he is at this age shows how good he will become. Your entitled to your opinion but I hope we can come back to this thread in a couple years so everyone can see how wrong you were.

 

 

Won a truck load of contested headers and not only won them but put the ball in good positions ( is a big quality)

 

hope we can come back to this thread in a couple years so everyone can see how wrong you were. ( couple of mounths)

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Seriously i love this bloke, did you see how pumped he got after his goal! I was about to cry with excitement over how good he is going to be for us for years to come.

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fellaini has been great so far, can't wait to see him get better and better

my only concern... i still feel as though tim cahill is one of, if not, the most vital players to everton. i just hope that in fellaini coming it doesnt push cahill out of the starting XI on a regular basis, i hope moyes is able to have both of them in the starting team

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Bit of information on Mo:

 

Fellaini was born to Moroccan parents who hail from Tangier and as a child attended numerous football academies. His father felt he had the potential to become a professional football player and took him to have a trial with RSC Anderlecht's academy when he was 7 years old despite the fact that Marouane had never played for a team before, he did however play with friends near the Atomium exhibition. In his first season at Anderlecht Academy he scored 26 goals and in his second he scored 37, both seasons he had played as a defensive midfielder.

 

He came from a footballing background as his father, Abdellatif Fellaini played as a Goalkeeper for Moroccan giants Raja Casablanca in 1970 and Hassania Agadir a year later before leaving Morocco to pursue a football career in Belgium with Racing Mechelen but he was not able to play due to the Moroccan club refusing to release his paperwork. Instead of returning home, he opted to become a bus driver for STIB (Society of Transport in Brussels) and he stayed in that line of work for 32 years and he lived in an area near to Heysel Stadium in Brussels. Marouane Fellaini is bi-lingual and is able to speak both Arabic and French and is a Muslim.

 

Despite his prominent Moroccan upbringing, Fellaini opted to play for the Belgium national football team as that is where he grew up, he put it down fate and he has stressed that he does not have a preference to either club or international football: "I do not deny my roots and I do not favour my club to the detriment of the national team. Both are equally important to me."

 

His father has publicly commented on Fellaini's fondness of Morocco: "Our children love to go to Morocco and they do not forget that their blood is Moroccan." but this did little to appease Moroccan immigrants in Belgium who refer to him as "le Diable" which translates as "the devil", partly because they feel he has turned his back on their national team and partly because the Belgium national football team's nickname is 'The Red Devils'.

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I've heard that too, £4m rising to £15m based on club appearances and international appearances.

 

It'd make sense too because Villa were linked with him for £5m three days before we bought him.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/200...15875-20716062/

 

If the club had came out and said he'd cost £4m I don't think he'd have been labelled a flop so soon. A lot of unnecessary pressure was put on him because the club announced he was the new transfer record.

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I've heard that too, £4m rising to £15m based on club appearances and international appearances.

 

It'd make sense too because Villa were linked with him for £5m three days before we bought him.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/200...15875-20716062/

 

If the club had came out and said he'd cost £4m I don't think he'd have been labelled a flop so soon. A lot of unnecessary pressure was put on him because the club announced he was the new transfer record.

 

 

That makes much more sense when you consider Defour is being touted at just £8million!

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For me he is impressing now. People need to look past the price, its fairly irrelevant now to be honest. I think what moyes was getting at in his above quote was that if he is playing well now, imagine how well he could be playing in a few more years when he has started to hit his peak.

 

I can't see how people can still be criticiaing him.Second game in a row where he has been a very strong contender, if not the actuall, man of the match. People need to forget there grievences with him and with his fee and look at the prospect we have in our team.

 

Great post mate. I've said from the start that he will come good and he has. You can tell that he has much more to give - he's looking like the Moutinhio-styled player we wanted. At the mo-ment ( :P ) he's doing just fine.

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He wont go to Chelsea for a couple of years yet. He's settled well into Everton and seems to be enjoying playing at Goodison. Once results get better and get more fixed then he will want to stay even more. I think he will be similar to Cahill, spend a good couple of season with us before moving on to a bigger club. I think we will get back what we paid for Marouane too, plus extras.

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dark if you read it properly or even read it it doesnt say they are after him. It says they scouted him before he went to everton. but they wernt only watching him, there were a few players they looked at.

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He looked very good again today, he's definitely getting better with each game.

Agreed. Too me he seems to be a good replacement for Cahill. Similar aspects to his game (good reading of the ball in the box for headers) but he has a more rounded game to him. Cahill might have aspects of his game that are better, but overall Big Mo seems to have more that he can bring to the team.

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