Sir McGiven

really would love to read sam's mind now...

bad luck for niasse but luckily there is walcott. good for him.

lol, really wondering how fat sam can find a job in PL nowadays and this thought leading me to another thinking where i also wonder why has everton ever decided on him? i was thinking the same back in the day he is hired for everton, couldn't find a proper answer yet.

regarding the tosun, this kind of things will not bring him down actually the opposite, he works even harder. he is always eager to get his place back in starting 11. it was like that while he was playing at besiktas, don't think it will change anytime soon. on the other hand, niasse wasn't a bad striker, maybe he can continue his run this game as well even though i think he was lucky last game, he had the chance that cenk hasn't had in whole game. he scored it anways. be optimistic about it.

good luck against leicester.

What a gap on left wing. I mean it is even a huge gap for PL standart. 

couldn't decide if it is a joke or...

In the meantime;

Turkish newspapers also telling that Everton may decide to make a move for Oguzhan Ozyakup as well. I don't think it is a true story (he is from arsenal btw if someone remembers him from their youth team). In my opinion, his strength is not suited for the premier league but gets along very well with Cenk, almost telepathically and his technique and vision good enough. Still, he is not a strong player, can be beaten with light shoulder touch.

Probably it is fake news. (narrated by trump)

He plays as MC (Nr. 8 kind of MC) or AMC.

P.s: Wow, i became "Daniel Amokachi", he retired at Besiktas by becoming a club legend. Proud. swh

i sent this to another topic here, let me paste it here as well with some additions;

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He used to be a very good, promising player. He shined when he was playing for Galatasaray then his Atletico Madrid years were huge success under Simeone but can't tell the same for his Barcelona "days"

He is not in a good shape, not sure even he is practicing or going to trainings. He can still be a useful transfer but signing him during the Jan. transfer window is a huge risk as he needs to reshape himself but it requires at least 3 months for him to get in a good shape as far as i can see him on Turkish media nearly everyday, he is not even spending his days in Spain for a while.

He can play as AMR - AML and AMC. As Rooney playing more like MC-AMC, you won't need him on that position, he struggled as MC at Barça so counting it as "not an option"

He can be a good substitute but probably his wage will be huge for a substitute player as he is earning a lot by doing nothing at Barça and Barça also stated that they need some cash to sell him as they spent 34m. for his transfer but there were nothing in return for them. It was a shit experience for both sides. He still could have been star player for Atleti side and Barça could do the same without him on their roster.

I believe he still can be good addition to Everton but he will need some mentorship to get in the game. He is a little bit distracted nowadays and been a while he didn't play. If he can focus on his game, he will be a good experience even for the youngsters in Everton squad.

 

one of the lamest penalty call i've ever seen in my life. shame.

5 hours ago, aaron said:

He's at PSG, not a chance we are going to be offering to paying more. He's that good that champions league clubs will come in for him, Arsenal and the shite constantly linked, he will chose either of them over us. (Im aware arsenal aren't in the champions league). Its a pipe dream signing him, a lovely pipedream, but a pipedream all the same.

Actually, according to my footballer wages research online and if my calculations are correct while converting GBP to EUR, Draxler earning 100k Euros weekly at PSG. Any marketing, brand, sponsorship etc. kind of deals are not included.

Lukaku used to earn 90k GBP (approx. 101k Euros) from Everton. I don't know if these kind of contracts includes any other variables but if not it matches. Still, in case of a transfer move from PSG to Everton for a player like Draxler caliber will cause a little bit "boost" on wage expectations for sure. On the other hand as the figures are not as different as chalk and cheese, it could have been worth trying by a simple enquiry to his agency as long as PSG side is ok for this move.

i don't think he will be suitable for us right now,  keep it  i'd rather demba ba with only 1 leg functional.

major turkish newspapers has also started to say "it is done" and changed their website headlines just right now, looks like it is a done deal now. take good care of him. he was great servant for us and may do the same for you.

also our manager has declared that he is gone and they are considering their options on cenk's replacement.

21 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/02/do-should-everton-sieze-reported-chance-to-sign-barcelonas-arda/

 

He used to be a very good, promising player. He shined when he was playing for Galatasaray then his Atletico Madrid years were huge success under Simeone but can't tell the same for his Barcelona "days"

He is not in a good shape, not sure even he is practicing or going to trainings. He can still be a useful transfer but signing him during the Jan. transfer window is a huge risk as he needs to reshape himself but it requires at least 3 months for him to get in a good shape as far as i can see him on Turkish media.

He can play as AMR - AML and AMC. As Rooney playing more like MC-AMC, you won't need him on that position, he struggled as MC at Barça so counting it as "not an option"

He can be a good substitute but probably his wage will be huge for a substitute player as he is earning a lot by doing nothing at Barça and Barça also stated that they need some cash to sell him as they spent 34m. for his transfer but there were nothing in return for them. It was a shit experience for both sides. He still could have been star player for Atleti side and Barça could do the same without him on their roster.

Additional info on this:

Besiktas chairman Fikret Orman has just returned from South Africa, it was a family trip and most likely he didn't care about anything else during the trip. He is back now and finalized Domagoj Vida transfer also stated that his board were running the negotiations on behalf of him so far but he is now back in business and will lead the transfer talks regarding Cenk Tosun.

He also indicated that there is a 35m. (i think in euro) offer from China but he is not taking it seriously as Cenk doesn't want to go China and wants to play in a better league than Chinese League but Everton needs to higher the price a little bit more (no amount mentioned in this statement so still Everton's offer is not clear) and for Cenk's sake Besiktas is also ready to make some sacrifices.

From what i understand, whatever price has been offered by Everton is a bit low for Besiktas and the chairman says "step a bit forward and we'll also come closer to you to meet in a common ground".

P.S.: There is another story circulating which indicates RB Leipzig offered 28 m. euros for Cenk, they want him at the end of the season but they are up to finalize the transfer now. Also AS Rome and Valencia mentioned as they are monitoring his situation.

1 hour ago, Quinn31 said:

This is what happens when you enter negotiations with clubs to the East of the Civilized World

ok, i am informing the club at the moment. we are sending cenk to you for free + we will pay 10 m. pound for you to sign him immediately.

this is called "negotiation", either you can take it or leave. same rule, same standarts everywhere, you can not insult anyone on this.

• premier league is way way better than turkish league, it is a fact.
• everton has better history than besiktas, it is a fact.
• everton's history is older and better than besiktas, it is a fact.
• if you put everton in turkish league for a season, they will be heaviest title contender easily.

but this doesn't effects the negotiations. let's check other facts;

• besiktas is in reluctant seller position.
• everton desperately needs a proper striker, lukaku still hasn't been replaced yet. it can be cenk or someone else, doesn't matter at this stage.
• besiktas playing in the CL and surprisingly reached to the next stage. we'll play with bayern munich, chances are low but lower if cenk leaves. that's the reason of being reluctant seller. if besiktas rejects the final offer and cenk keeps playing for besiktas we can be knocked-out against bayern but we can still sell him for at least 20m. in the summer transfer window. but if we face another surprise and somehow besiktas knocks-out bayern and if cenk scores in this match-up, what happens? what do you think?
• cenk is besiktas fan since childhood and leaving for his dream league or keep playing for his fav. team doesn't matter for him at the moment, according to his comments. still, he wants to play in PL if besiktas wants to sell him for the club's benefit. the most important point here, "if besiktas wants to sell him". so it is not going to be a story like "cenk wants out and angry as besiktas refused to sell him"
• as soon as the transfer confirmed, he will be the most expensive turkish player and club will receive a massive amount for a turkish club. it will help our current financial status. at this stage, trying to get more is legit. google: profit maximization.

no need to be a butt hurt racist. it is a business, it goes through many negotiations. everyone playing their cards. it will be done or not eventually.

still hoping everton to sign him for his sake. he always has been good for us, performed whenever we needed his service. he is 26 years old and time to take himself to the next level.