Sir McGiven

If Everton wants a collapse, yeah then Mou should be the best answer. Out-dated football mentality, spending ultra high amounts on transfers (well at least this suits but he will take it to the next level), no team chemistry, always “problematique” and lunatic personality.

His glorious days are so far away now, Italian football will be the best for him.

What a bazooka it was!

Silly and obvious penalty there... Gutted already, meh.

I’m not a part of this discussion but gotta paste this

https://9gag.com/gag/axz031L

hell yeah!

I agree with Richarlison as CF, it is limiting his talents. 

19 hours ago, Palfy said:

Why do you think it’s turned out the way it has for him, he started off with so much promise scored some well taken goals.

 I still think he should be playing up front in place of Richarlison who is better on the left, where that leaves Bernard I don’t know but that’s not the issue we need to play the best players suited for the positions they excell in, so at this moment in time he’s still got a future here imo. 

The reason is beside the obvious facts (like he is slow as a striker for EPL) he is not good at hold-up play, link-up play etc. at Everton, those were what he used to do perfectly at Besiktas. What makes him special is his finishing ability so far but that alone is not enough.

I mean DCL is a promising striker and maybe will be better than Cenk in the future but I don't think he is currently and as far as I see he is the 2nd choice striker. Well, if Cenk dropped to 3rd choice, it is not good for him. Plus, because of the current situation I think his morale is pretty low and he looks like he has lost his self-confidence already.

Can he still be a good asset for the team? I am sure he can but eventually being a 3rd choice problem will drive him to the point where he needs to make a decision.

His career at Everton turned out to be a big disappointment, isn'tt it?

He is the one to blame. Fat Sam was interested bla bla, ok but he picked Everton, he knew what he is going to face but did nothing to improve in the game. So, it is not Everton's fault. I was very optimistic at the beginning of this season but it is not going to happen.

everton that, gosh, what a disappointment.

A meh win for me. Against a side like Cardiff, 1-0 is not convincing, besides the fact that it is still a win after Sam’s boring football.

He scored 2 times today for Galatasaray.

9/10 for me, it was an easy one

14 minutes ago, hafnia said:

So.... what's the consensus these days..

Xbox one x or ps 4 pro?  Or get a pc and build it?   

Don't really have the option of a desk to play games so a console may be the best option. I've got two lads 4 & 2 who will no doubt want to get in on the act..... 

My opinion is; 

Having a PS 4 for its awesome exclusive games + a PC build for steam games.

I am not a big fan of Xbox franchise...

Regarding the Battle Royale discussion: CoD > PUBG Mobile > PUBG > Fortnite for me.

Good first touch, OK finishing strike. I do agree with Bailey, a better keeper could have easily saved it. Still, it will be a great confidence boost for him. Glad the boy scored one by his standards.

4 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Why do they keep booing Bernard?

that’s what I want to know as well.

I hope we're not. He was sh*t even in the Turkish League.

18 minutes ago, StevO said:

I think so too. 

Better off if we have one close to 20 and another two over 10. Spread them around the front four as much as possible. 

Richalison could get 20, Theo and Gylfi should both get more than 10. If you can get Tosun into double figures and a few from Bernard, DCL and Niasse to top them up it would be much healthier. 

It was great having Lukaku score lots of goals for us, but when you lose that one player it causes too much damage. 

In the last 5 years, there are only 3 strikers who were able to reach 30. Salah, Kane, and Suarez. Salah and Kane did it last year. So yeah, I'd prefer your way StevO.

isn'tt "30 goals in a season" a bit too optimistic?

1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said:

Good thought, klaassen is doing well there maybe Cenk will too.

Premier League is something different. Cenk is still a good player and can do a lot better than this in a more posession based team but neither Sam’s nor Silva’s tactical approach is suitable for him. It’s his bad luck that the manager who bought him was a huge joke and his replacement’s tactics doesn’t suit him. I will not be suprised anymore if he is getting sold and doing great again in another club. This league and this year’s bad form has damaged his confidence, no question. He was dominating Champions League last 2 years at Besiktas (not comparing him to Messi or Ronaldo’s goalscoring of course) and now he has just lost his place at Everton. It should be hard for him.

Still, he was the one who said “EPL is my dream and I don’t wanna miss this offer” then left Besiktas in January for Everton. We struggled after him, dropped all the way to 4th place... He gave his everything for us and just because of that we loved him and there were no bad feelings when he was leaving. As he wanted to come here that badly, he should have worked harder than this. He didn’t to be fair and deserves to be benched for a long time until he is ready (If he can ever be)

But some Everton fans are really biased and blinkered about him. He is still a good striker. If a player is not good at Everton it doesn’t mean he is shit or vice versa.

8 hours ago, Finn balor said:

I was thinking that. Wilth Henry and vlasic coming back next summer I think he will be looking to have a front four that can all score rather than just one which I agree with. Like the shite they can all interchange positionally. Was it fenerbache we got him from? Maybe they can afford him

It's Besiktas mate but I don't think any Turkish club can afford his price at Everton. As he is German-born, maybe some German clubs can be interested though.

6 minutes ago, Peter H said:

Tosun wouldnt have scored that because he is shit

and obviously neither dcl nor niasse are world class.

4 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

why not?  barca have played that way for years with iniesta and xavi and then iniesta and rakitic.  works just fine.

Neither of them was/are number 10s but DMs, still they are exceptional. Neither Morgan nor Gana have their passing ability, not even close. So, unless you have 2 DMs who can defend and pass the ball, it is useless.

I think the biggest problem is the individual (also as a team) inconsistency. Except for Richarlison and the red card, no other player looking like they can offer a consistent performance on the pitch every week.

Cenk definitely needs a heads up and break. 2 easy to convert chances he missed is not gonna help him today. If he plays and scores it is OK but otherwise, it'll damage his morale as well. Richarlison is going to get his place upfront next week I think.

On the other hand, the connection between the midfield and strikers are terrible. Gana is ruining passes, Gylfie not getting enough passes, Kenny is definitely not a replacement for Coleman.