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Pictures of the proposed stadium to be released 10am Friday on the official site: link

Soon as I heard Keith say there was no plan B I knew it was more lies. He must take the fans for complete idiots, I'm sure a few new sites will miraculously appear if the vote is turned down. If the ballot is going to be a>move to Kirby b>stay in Goodison its a farce. As for the design proposal I think it looks cheap and dated, something out of the 80's book of stadia architecture. It doesn't need to be a bowl to have the corners seated.

To be fair the analogy of a football fan to a customer isn't accurate. Fans are never going to jump ship if they aren't happy with a product or service. In any case, large companies have to employ PR staff to build loyalty and trust keeping customers informed about new products, improvements and developments. I think our blind loyalty's taken far too much for granted by Kenwright and his board.

Maybe he's being loyal to the man who pays his wages and keeping shut about what goes on behind closed doors. It amazes me how our chairman escapes critisism when we talk about lack of transfer activity. Thats the last I'll say on it, I know I'm repeating myself...

Problem is we don't know how much Kenwright is giving him to spend. Moyes has long lamented the financial contraints at Everton while patting himself on the back for competing with teams who have money, and rightly so. But we know for certain there is a huge influx of cash this year possibly more than double last year. Moyes will have a list of players he wants to bring in and in my opinion between the chairman and ceo, they are not giving him the money he needs.

The premiership came in very early 90s and that relegation scrap was 94 if I recall

Van Der Meyde's still under contract so unless someone comes in for him we'll have to pay him millions in compensation to release him. Would you prefer to do that or put it towards buying a new striker? One thing Moyes isn't is soft on discipline, Blomqvist was the first to learn that when he threw a strop for being taken off and was was released shortly after. The difference with Man U is they can afford to take loss on a player and in general other teams will have a lot more interest in their cast offs being a higher calibre.

Ferguson against the shite on his début was sound as well but it would have to be barry hornio vs wimbledon for me. Skill wise I can't think of a more spectacular one than Mcfudge's this year.

No problem with the guy but his distribution and positioning were crap, I dont give players credit for trying hard, that's the bare minimum if they dont they shouldn't be in blue shirt. £1m transfer fee says it all. Wright and Naysmith in two days is progress as far as I'm concerned. Good luck to him all the same.

Well Newcastle are laughing now, they won their court case with the FA to the tune of £10 million compensation - full wages and medical bills.

Jagielka should prove to be a great signing for Moyes, it fits in with his grafter utility ethos perfectly. I'm hoping he's going to replace 'long ball Hibbo'.

Happy days, there's another £1-2million in wages year we can put to better use.

They're all better apart from AJ even then he wouldnt be first choice. We can't consolidate last seasons position with the current squad, Spurs and Newcastle will be a much stonger outfit next year along with Villa. I think Bolton falter to some degree but maybe that's wishfull thinking. We saw last year how lifeless we were with Johnson out. We need at least one striker, I was hoping two with Beattie being sold but doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Tottenham have made a lot more than we do for one reason or another recently. Everton were just knocked out of the top 20 with a turnover of around 58m. It's a bit of a concern seeing the likes of Man City and West Ham in there: The rich list 2005-2006 followed by 2004-2005 Revenue 1 (1) Real Madrid €292.2m €275.7m 2 (6) Barcelona 259.1 207.9 3 (4) Juventus 251.2 229.4 4 (2) Man United 242.6 246.4 5 (3) Milan 238.7 234.0 6 (5) Chelsea 221.0 220.8 7 (9) Inter 206.6 177.2 8 (7) Bayern M 204.7 189.5 9 (10) Arsenal 192.4 171.3 10 (8) Liverpool 176 181.2 11 (15) Lyon 127.7 92.9 12 (11) Roma 127 131.8 13 (12) Newcastle 124.3 128.9 14 (14) Schalke 122.9 97.4 15 (13) Tottenham 107.2 104.5 16 (n/a) Hamburg 101.8 n/a 17 (17) Man City 89.4 90.1m 18 (n/a) Rangers 88.5 n/a 19 (n/a) West Ham 60.1 n/a 20 (n/a) Benfica 58.8 n/a Previous place in parentheses Source Deloitte Football Money League

From the Annual Delloite Premiership report, the Premiership overtook the rest of Europe in terms of revenue long ago and it keeps getting bigger. It's no wonder the prices are ramped up as soon as an English team makes a transfer enquirey. The more money Premiership teams get the higher the prices go.

That'd be a fair point if we had to pay them their entire wages for the next five years at the the time the contract was signed a few days ago. As it is, that money will be coming in the main from future revenue.

Untill we find out where the biggest windfall in the club's history has gone, I'll reserve judgement on that. Till them we can hear a few more rumours about us apparently being skint...again.

Something I remind bitter RS and Manc supporters I work with on a regular basis when Chelsea beat them to another signing. You sure as shit won't see one Liverpool fan complaining if they dont balance their books at the end of this summer.

I agree Smith did well to keep us up though I hated the football at the time. He was given money in his first summer, around 20 million but then when we didn't qualify for Europe it came out he was forced by Johnson to sell the same players off. With regards Ferguson it's been suggested Smith knew all about that transfer (they had the same agent at the time) and allowed Johnson to dig his own grave. Newcastle must have been pissing themselves when we bought him back.

Aside from loads of those already mentioned, Brett Angel & Stuart Barlow (those 2 always top my list), Earl Barret, Slaven Bilic, Marc Hottiger and Alex Nyarko (possibly the biggest digrace ever to wear a blue shirt).

do you really believe there are no wealthy evertonians who want to buy the club? If there are any, where are they? Are they waiting for our value to raise through European exposure before investing their fortune? can you explain johnson ripping us apart and leaving us high and dry? where to start.. Johnson took out huge loans against the club to supplement Smith's spending and when the results didn't follow we were forced to sell our best players, Ball, Jeffers, Dacourt, Materazi. Even then we were still massively in debt. dont forget, johnson put up the cash for all his managers to buy the players they wanted to buy. he had innovative ideas for the stadium issue. See above, it wasn't his cash and as for Kendall, he gave him fuck all to spend. As for innovative ideas on his hamperdome conception, that was all about Johnson's own personal gain and was never given finanical backing. Would you really have wanted to ground share with a rugby league club? when he left he sold the club for what it was worth, just as he bought it for what it was worth. Johnson bought Everton for a bargain £10mil when we were at our lowest ebb on the brink of relegation, the year we beat Wimbledon on the last day of the season. This was at the start of the Premiership and Sky boom. He held on at the end for as long as he could before selling his shares to screw every last penny out of the club selling for more than double what he paid leaving us tens of million £s in debt the problem johnson had was he hired the wrong managers, and im sure he would tell you the same Surely along with investing money into a club AND keeping it on a financial even keel, hiring managers are the main criteria for judging a chairman's success. In that respect he was one of the poorest in our history. I could go on about Johnson - the Liverpool season ticket holder, and how he almost finished us off but I can't be arsed, the day he left was one of the best days in our history.

Positive news, should send a clear mesage out we aren't a selling club anymore.

I agree this guy wouldnt be viable, he cant even raise the 50 he needs for Brum, but what makes an investor suitable? If you think any of them are going to put the club before them making a profit you are dreaming and that goes for Man U, Liverpool and all the others bought by non-fans. There are no Evertonian sugar daddys waiting in the wings but There can be mutual gains for both parties from an outside investor, success and profit. We seem automatically suspicious of foreign interest. Just because a potential investor is foreign doesn't automatically make him Satan in disguise. Johnson was from Birkenhead and ripped our club apart, almost took us into the championship and did a runner leaving us high and dry.

It worries me people are so happy to accept we have no money when this isn't the case any more. We are reported be be getting 40-55 million Sky/Setanta revenue depending on where you read it, Sunderland have got 25 mil to spash on transfers just from coming up. There has been NO mention of how this income will be spent unlike a host of other premiership clubs. I understand the need to avoid total transparency as it would lead to clubs holding us to ransom but I can see it just being written off once again under the guise of debts, new contracts and outstanding transfer payments. There should be some accountability on what's happening to the largest windfall in the club's history and it better hadn't be earmarked the stadium move's down payment.