Sandman

exactly, if we came back for him now it would make us look desperate, we would be crawling to a player who rejected us. i would much rather take appiah

trivium - tread the floods

i doubt that, refs are always harsher to the away team in europe. no argument about the score though!

im afraid its tough shit on him he shouldnt have rejected us should he. btw come on valencia. (beating chelsea).

i think hibbert was better on sunday, possibly because arteta was back to help him - he could simply pass to arteta knowing that something would get done, that there was someone there who was alert and skillful. fullbacks can be made to look poor or good depending on what the winger on their side is like, and vice versa.

nightwish - the poet and the pendulum my dying bride - two winters only

has anyone heard the new nightwish album, dark passion play? i got it the day it came out (yesterday) and it is f*ckin brilliant. got the new apocalyptica album too (worlds collide) which likewise sounds decent.

i have it now, its good imo, harder to score though. and we seem to have lost one andy van der meyde on it...

in about 20 mins i'm probably going to be buying fifa 08 for ps2. for those of you who have it for ps2, are there any really bad bits or bad flaws?

can i ask anyone who has fifa 08 for ps2 are there any bad flaws in it? ive read some reviews that said it was really bad and i just wondered if you'd noticed anything.

cool, i'm getting it tonight for ps2, cba gettin a ps3 looks a bit overpriced to me.

stevo what console do you have it for?

she was on the pitch at half time, she was sexy... wonder is she always that loud...

dont have it yet, what rating do arteta and lescott get?

her voice hurt! her voice was harsh but the volume on the PA seemed to be turned up to 11 and she was shouting. anyone else think so lol?

no way, i thought it was quite good, we didnt even play that much hoofball. my ratings: Howard - 8. didnt have that much to do but looked really solid when called upon. hibbert - 7. had an ok game defensivly, even got some crosses in. stubbs - 7. decent game, gave away one silly free kick but quite solid. lescott - 9. mom for me. great all round performance. baines 7. got forward well as per usual, decent game. pienaar - 9. great game, worked really hard, seems to have loads more skill than osman. neville - 8. shock horror, i thought he played well, much better than jags today, actually found blue shirts! jagielka - 4. quite poor today imo, seemed to give the ball away a lot. arteta - 9. welcome back! missed him a lot. back to his best today, set up both goals, brilliant game. yakubu - 5. not that good today imo, looked a bit lazy. mcfadden - 9. had a great game, involved in the pienaar goal too. subs: anichebe - 4. didnt do much, looks a bit clumsy and doesnt keep the ball very well. yobo - 7. looked decent when he came on but i'm not really sure why that was. carsley - didnt have enough time on the pitch to make an impact.

exactly. we dont have a decent left winger (one who is naturally left sided) and baines gets forward and crosses, and lescott can play left back... so i just thought it would add something extra to the midfield.

i know this probably wont happen but i'd like to see this: wessels neville yobo (if fit) stubbs lescott arteta piennar jags baines yak faddy btw heather you have 2 jags' in your team

ino we need a left player but ive never been that impressed with downing tbh, scored a couple of good goals but apart from that never seen what people see in him really. love to get appiah, and heard good things about that lad called kightley from wolves too but 8 mil would be too high.

hope faddy starts against boro, he's been great today by the sound of it.

neville is playing right back, straight swap for hibbo.

some rumours from football-rumours.com: probably bullshit but i'd take diego and appiah. heard good things about bendtner too.

bit of a rough deal for barnsley isnt it

anderson is back from his loan, wonder if he'll start... i'd like to see wessels neville stubbs lescott boyle pienaar anderson jags vidarsson mcfadden jutkiewicz not very realistic ino, but i'd like to see the young lads given a run out. neville is only there cos he'll never be dropped btw. agard should be on the bench too.

you must find that an attractive thought because there isnt any reason to have carsley horsewhipped when neville is around.