EFC-Paul

Anyway it's flogging a dead horse now I get and respect people see him in a different light than I do no problems whatsoever and I'd be made up to be proved wrong Time will tell....

Because I don't see him as an outstanding young talent Nogs it's that simple I don't see what area of his game he could refine and hone to become much better, I just see him as I've said previously a potentially steady squad player obviously experience will help him along his way to a degree Is it an achievement at his age to have played as many games as he has yes of course it is but he's had many of those games due to circumstances surrounding the squad such as injuries and so on, I'm not discounting those appearances I'm just looking at it from a neutral and honest perspective I agree on Barkley he got some bad treatment from fans whilst playing largely due to how frustrating he was as he had the raw ability but hardly ever applied it but it didn't justify the abuse he got at times The problem is as I've said above you've shoehorned people into a bracket and used past situations with the likes of Barkley that certainly aren't applicable to myself purely on the basis of people not rating a player, I've never hurled abuse at a game and all that bollocks I've purely stated on a forum I don't particularly rate him Personally I can't think of any other players that got abuse for being local etc it seems to be a urban myth that's been created imo Barkley got it Lukaku got it Naisse got it as did Martina and many others over the years I'll back the lad to the hilt when he's wearing the shirt but I won't be blinded by that in my judgement if he's under par and I'll praise the lad when he does well as with any player

This is were you go off track your shoehorning individual people's thoughts and opinions into a massive bracket I personally have never thought or said he'd be a superstar and don't think he ever will be so it's irrelevant to me if others did or have Foden is a talent who's just been selected for the senior squad by playing so little first team football, the two are completely different players with different skillsets Davies is a steady squad player for me which is no shame I just don't see anything in his game or potential to suggest otherwise

This pretty much echo's my thoughts on it Just to add Foden is a fantastic young talent with attributes that Davies doesn't have and is vying for a spot in one of Europe's best midfields totally incomparable bar being young tbh, the lad will be a top top player imo

Both brilliant Boardwalk sadly tailed off to quickly near the end due to its numbers dwindling but Narco's got better as it went on surprisingly Tempted to put The Blacklist in but just misses out

I've been more of a comic book reader in my younger years so won't bore you with those I listened to such a wide variety of music growing up and in my younger years it's hard to put a list together but the following come to mind Albums The Who - Quadrophenia Roger Daltrey - McVicar The Clash - London Calling Oasis - Morning Glory Marvin Gaye - Motown (best male vocalist ever imo) Series in no particular order GOT Breaking Bad Boardwalk Empire Narcos Peaky Blinders Films again like series I just can't list them in any order and far to many to list Heat Sleepers God Father Trilogy Road to Perdition A Bronx Tale Harder than I thought that

Some very odd nominees on that list especially the ones from over here, good on the lad though can only do his confidence the world of good

One of my favourite players over the years and an absolute steal for what he's given over the years I do think his time is nearing an end sadly and I do think he'll be replaced/fazed out in the near future but I'd love him to be kept around the club when the time comes

Spot on

I get it as well mate but it isn'tt what's been said implied or happened he's just thrown out a nonsensical blanket comment He'll be the focus of the criticism/debate because he's been consistently inconsistent and to many people he doesn't do much to justify starting games, it has nothing to do with age or being homegrown I think he has a place in the squad but not in the first eleven I get Bailey's point side's do have those types of players many top successful sides as he pointed out United being a great example have had them over the years, hopefully he kicks on and has a place here down the line in a similar way

Absolutely no need to feel sorry for me LB I'm not the one who forgets what I've posted then twists an innocent reply into something personal "Lets not start are usual season game of pick a youngster and then hound them till they leave or lose faith in themselves." Your insinuating a great deal with the above purely on people giving an honest assessment of the lads ability and how he's fairing it isn'tt hounding him out, we praise players when they play well and critique them when they don't that's football

Great show love his character and great to see the usual faces more often from BB Ozark season two is out now so that's my binge day sorted for Tuesday

True, I do hope he does though I just can't see it I did say somewhere else it's a shame he came through during a turbulent period and was thrown into the side as he could have done with a season or two in the Championship I've no problems with him being part of the squad though I just don't want to see him starting games if possible

Not to keep knocking the lad but I can't see him ever being a Barry type or close to what he was Slightly conflicting opinion because I don't think Davies will become much more than Gosling and co have but I really rated Barry, possibly one of the best signings we've made in my time so far I get your jist though him being a type that does stuff that mainly goes unnoticed but sadly I do notice it and it's pretty rubbish I'd love Barry back here now ten years younger though!!

Some interesting little titbits, he's usually quite good with his info but I always take these with a pinch of salt https://mobile.twitter.com/charles_stevo

Read the following, if it's true he'll be hanging his boots up at the end of this season I will say this bloke's been pretty much spot in over the transfer window https://mobile.twitter.com/charles_stevo

I'd say he sat firmly in the very average bracket yesterday which is were he tends to always sit It isn'ttt a criticism it's observational opinion people aren't knocking the lad by purely saying he's not that good of a footballer it's just what we see, your right lots of teams do have players that don't excel at much but if your happy to have the likes of Gosling Rodwell and co playing for your side then that's fine but for me personally I don't want that as we'll never kick on carrying bang average players Great lad seems to be liked by everyone but I just don't see him being anything other than a steady eddie Also I don't tend to look at stats to much they can be misleading and skewed to whichever way someone intends them to be

Should have brought him on for Davies earlier and had DCL play off Tosun centrally Not enough time considering it was his first appearance to get into the game properly plus most of the other lads were piss poor Depending on injuries I'd start him against WH see how he does from the off

This is the type of nonsense that gets people's backs up imo I agree with Mark entirely he excels at absolutely nothing and to me regardless of age is a position being wasted, it isn'ttt hounding a player or picking out a youngster it's an opinion from people that are here to support primarily Everton not individual players He seems a good lad and has made slight improvements under Silva as I've mentioned recently but he doesn't have anything in his locker to improve upon that will make him good enough in my opinion

I agree although he's been better of late for the most part but he's still not upto scratch

Shite from start to finish and it's these kind of games we will look back on and think "if only" No excuses as we had enough quality out there to beat them today without any problems but most of the lads didn't turn up but considering we've hit a patch of injuries and suspensions of late it can only get better Just pissed off we've dropped points against these and should have buried Bournemouth but we'll improve once more of the lads get back upto speed

This for me as well

Shite result against a really poor side, possibly one of the most mundane side's I've seen in this league in recent years

Great to see that from Silva can only see it be him telling him to prove his worth and doubters (attitude wise not ability)

Digne does put in a good ball with either foot