CaptainFerguson10

You have said everything that I'm feeling right now mate. I'm so angry it's untrue.

I severely doubt your anger matches mine lad. Moyes negativity and lack of imagination has caused us three points today, sitting on a one goal lead was criminal, especially when Moyes is incapable of getting the team to HOLD the ball! Though I strongly disagreed with the starting line up (typical Moyes, cautious as ever), we played well and contained Fulham. Yet in the second half Moyes didn't react at all to Fulham tactical switches, and stood there praying to hold on.

What was worse though, was him subbing Jo for Felliani. WTH! At 1 - 1, take the flipping game to them and sub the God awful Osman. No, he takes off a forward for a midfielder, truly dire management.

I'm so angry and annoyed but not just because of today, because Moyes DOES NOT LEARN FROM HIS MISTAKES! Why Billy didn't come on for Heitinga, I still shake my head with great fury.

Distin. He was one of the few who looked like he knew what he was doing, but my word what a shocking second half!

No need to be so condecending.

 

You should enjoy this time now, we can forget about crap off the pitch and actually enjoy the reason why we love the club. The football.

You implied I was an idiot before, but I'm sorry if I offended you. I did agree that we should all enjoy the stuff on the pitch that we cheer every weekend, however now I totally disagree after watching that utterly diabolical second half at Craven Cottage!!!!

he wasnt good enough, or he would still be here. its that simple.

i was always a big fan of his for the reserves, but he hasnt grown physically big enough in the last few years, size and strength can often be the make or break for a young player.

i hope he has a good career, and i hope he can put the disappointment behind him.

Osman?

If you want to be childish and not go to the games then thats fine, but i'd never do that. I love Everton and pay for my season ticket to go and watch them play week-in week-out, i'm not going to be an idiot and think that me not going is going to change things.

 

If you think that not attending games is going to result in a positive change in the financing and ownership of the club then you are the gulliable one.

That is the silliest thing I have ever read! Truly self-centered, naive spiel. But it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, just proves you're the typical fan I was referring to.

I complelty disagree with your sentiments here. You are stating Kissock didn't hit it of with us because he's aflair player and Moyes cant handle him. Thats not the reason why he isn't playing for us now. It's because he is not good enough. Thats why is now playing for Hamilton.

 

We don't have many "flair" players in the team beacuse they are often luxery players and we barely have enough money to buy squad players let alone a luxery flair player.

 

I can't see really how you can turn around this thread to be anti-moyes.

I'm not turning it around to an anti-Moyes thread, how many times do I have to say Moyes is one of the lynch-pins to success for the club? But neither am I oblivious to his failings, and his general dislike to creative players is one of them. Kissock may not have been good enough now, but maybe that's in part due to the lack of faith shown in him? Can't improve when you're not playing at the desired level lad, ask Baines about his game before he got his break due to the suspension of Lescott.

Great article, great player. Far better in every way than that something that left us the other week, still upset fans erected banners in begging him to stay. Hence why as a fanbase, we get taken for a ride by the establishment so often.

i'm sure Hiets said on Radio city that his fav postion was CB not DM, he said he can play CB RB an MF if needed but his fav postion is CB an wants to prove himself there.

He said his favoured position is center back or center midfield, I've watched Hets from the Ajax days and we don't want him in our midfield. But neither do I want Neville there, but that's Moyes for you.

http://www.sos1878.co.uk/everton-news/moyes-robert-elstone-is-wrong/

Article suggests Moyes isn't happy at all with the lack of investment, and made a stand with his statement earlier in the week. Also a poster rightly points out that while fans are stupid, sorry gullible enough to keep believing in Kenwright then nothing will change.

If we stop attending games and lining the clubs pockets, then something will give.

I think people need to realise that Felliani is still adapting to a new league, and forget what he achieved last year. He is quality, just needs time to focus. Maybe when the squad settles, then we will see the best of all our players, well maybe all.

Give the job to Steve McClaren!

"I wasn't Moyes' type of player he doesn't have many flamboyant players in his side."

I feel for Kissock, though he wasn't the biggest in stature his potential was there to be built on. But his quote is again one of Moyes failings as a manager, his inability to handle/play fair players. And before people start screaming Arteta and Pienaar, he played both out of position for a long while which nullified their talents.

http://www.sos1878.co.uk/rumours/everton-linked-to-van-der-vaart-again/

I know we will never get him, but it does sound more and more appealing. Oh but wait, we have no CASH like Moyes confirmed.

Bugger!

What does Robert Earl actually do?

Jo loan fee touted at 2.5m

WOW! If we don't sign him after virtually shelling out 4 million in loan fees for him, then something is very wrong.

Of course what this really means is that the board have not given Moyes any Money for two years running, Moyes has had to raise his own money with the selling of players, aka Mcfadden, Beattie, AJ,and Lescott.

Its as i said a few years ago EFC have sold everything we own, and the only assets we have left are on the pitch. We have in fact become a selling club and that is not the way to breach the gap to the top 4.

Moyes has brought us as far as we can go, while the clubs around us have Boardrooms full of cash and are spending millions more on improving, we cannot hope to compete.

This season might prove to be the turning point, unfortunately from here it could all go downwards.

Proven by event's this and last summer, yet some of the sheep herd still believe in the board? Amazing to believe their lies summer after summer, especially when it's season renewal time.

if he includes any felli payments also? peterling, mustafi, garbutt and arnoux? still...cant imagine them 4 cost 8 mill between can you?

If they amounted to more than £500,000 together, I'll be very surprised.

“We’ve only spent what we have brought in, we haven’t spent any other cash on top of that. That’s what it looks like to me. Times are hard, so I will work to what I can do.”

Just proves that Moyes and the board are not on the same song sheet. Moyes mostly calls it as it is, where our board will seemingly lie at every opportunity. I was saying to MikeO recently, that Moyes is 'undermined' in part by Billy, which seems more and more likely to cause some major division in the future.

Anyway, the point being Elstone is proving to be a liar like Billy.

Not a "My Name is Earl" watcher .

Classic comedy!

let's keep it at heitinga untill we find a better nickname

 

i agree though, defense isn't a big issue.

i'm more conserned about our lack of wide players.

Altough billy and Pienaar aren't bad, they aren't the type to get 5 to 10 good crosses in each game, wich would bring much more threat with good headers like Cahill felli, ...

Agreed!

A solid right back with tremendous pace, good crossing ability as well. Though currently injured, I'm puzzled why Moyes never tries him in the first team? I think a future Gary Neville in the making.

How about the 'Kenwright son train-settio' center?

Thanks WhiteJc, you and your boys are welcome any time.

Calm down people, we still have Neville to fill the void. Right?

Squad player at best, even I'll go as far to say I'm slightly underwhelmed.

Considering Everton aren't good enough yet to have 'happy' squad players, I think midfield is the biggest worry. Neville, Hets, Hibbert and Coleman (if Moyes ever trusts him to play first team football, which considering he played Hibbert often enough is a joke) can all play at right back. Neville, Jagelika, Yobo, Distin and Hets can all play at center back. And Baines, Neville and Distan can play at left back. In total we have eight defenders, which is good enough.