Matt

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8896590/transfer-news-everton-boss-roberto-martinez-says-leighton-baines-has-not-asked-to-leave No transfer request, no "please let me leave"... Quel suprise

think hes a cracking player, but to be honest Ive only seen him play a handful of times.

fair enough, though I still maintain the good football wasnt an exception. predictable, negative, awful subs, sitting back - yes, it happened a lot, which is why im not sad to see him go. Boring, 50/50. Good to see you recognize mate, thats not been apparent in your previous posts. Maybe you could take Avins "the eternal optimist" on, seems fitting now

dont understand why so few people see the value of Baines... If they want him, 15m + Büttner. Otherwise, sod off.

that made me and at the same time

pretty much what I was getting at Though I wouldve said it was more than 10 games a season. Its not new, but we're more patient now. some people seem to think it never existed before Martinez... I know, Ive admitted Im getting overly frustrated and impatient. Like I said, the only changes Ive seen are fewer hoofs (theres still a fair few, which is ok in my opinion), more caution, and more passing at the back. I wanted more passing in the middle of the park, but I guess thats why everyones crying out for a new CM

Yes.

I am amazed at how people seem to think this passing style is completely new, and that all Moyes ever did was get the back to launch it up front. We did play attacking, passing football under Moyes, probably as much as, if not more than, hoofball. Remember Mirallas goal end of last season (even the BBC recognized it, was up for goal of the month)? Remember being compared to Barcelona? Remember the 1st half of last season where we dominated teams with fluid attacking football? Remember Ossies goal against Larissa? Im cherry picking here but I could list hundreds of examples. Hoofball came about because the players / management ran out of ideas against teams and resorted to punting it long (which has more chance of scoring than passing back and forth between the back 2) in the hopes it would get a break. It wasnt pretty, but sometimes it is necessary. The only difference Ive seen is more caution and patience in build up and the obvious, that Barkley is going to be the heartbeat of the team and is the creative, driving force weve missed since Arteta. Dont get me wrong, I still think RM is the man for the job but I refuse to acknowledge this is all new, because it just isnt.

maybe theyve said nothing because the whole thing is a media show triggered by interested parties and theyre just being professional and keeping their mouth shut.

what the fuck where the authorities doing during this time?!

welcome to the forum

Pete, its fact that he created the most chances in Europe last season. Regardless of how he created them, you want to lose 100+ opportunities to score in a season? http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/425507/Everton-reject-NEW-36m-United-bid-for-Fellaini-and-BainesIf ever there was proof this shit is made up, so it reactivates huh? I call bullshit....

agreed, Lundstrum sounds good in theory. Then you see his England performances and factor in we have bugger all funds. Reasonable shout considering our situation...

2-3 years of one of the most productive players in Europe is worth more than buying unknown players who might amount to nothing. I dread to think where we would be without his service? 2 places lower is 2m less income. That's a very generous prediction....

Bb122 - honestly I don't know. If I had the chance to play for Everton then it's clear. But players brought in from other places don't seem to have this passion, they are people with skills suited to a craft, like chefs, architects, whatever. If there was never a chance to play for Everton I would take as much cash as I could get. Personally, I don't care about playing for silverware (unless it was Everton, but then I'd spend my career trying to help them win something)

doubt it, left on a free didnt he?

hope to hell thats true....

im sure he'll get over it, you know, with the yacht, Bentley, mansion and enough money to disgust all the people who will pretend to be his friend just so they can live off his riches....

season long loan who could be a free transfer at the end

for 5 games of the season, then disappeared (that was my point). Will be interesting to see if he lasts longer this season

Thats 2-3 years of a player at his peak. Id rather have that than cash in now.

Sterling looked a live wire when he broke into the Shites squad too

He is one of the best CM in the league, without doubt. Modric went for 35m, Felli is not 12m worse...

it wont be too late, targets will have been identified long ago and I wouldnt be surprised if the water has been tested with clubs of an players of interest. but 38m is not enough, and we wont sell.

Id reject it.