SimonButtle

Is £30m too high if £50m is ok for Gylfi?

Walcott has had a hell of alot of injuries over his career. but to be fair to him Arsenal as a club have a shocking fitness record overall. The Gylfi price is just ridiculous and personally i wish we would just walk away from it, but Koeman seems determined to get him.

Anyone else thinking this is to price Ross out of a move and encourage him to sign?

No, surely if they wanted him to stay they would take him away on the training camp? it does not matter that he is injured he could still integrate himself with in the squad with the new signings whilst regaining his fitness.

Jim White saying before that he understands that the club have had no interest in Barkley so far.

When there was talk of getting out of the ten year deal half way though. It wasn't some massive loop hole though, there was just a half way break clause.

 

At the time there was social media uproar and the club posted an article about how good the deal really was.

Not sure how, i remember when we signed the Kitbag deal, it was crap, there were clubs in the championship with better kit deals

Still need a right back imo and decent striker. some of the names being linked at the moment are just frightening

SSN saying Chelsea will allow him to leave, and we're interested along with Southampton.

Id be very surprised he is another one who is never fit

Totally agree , you can't praise him one minute for immersing himself into the club and it's history then slag him off the next for expressing an opinion about the club

 

Having actually met him and dealt with him in a professional capacity he has as much right as anyone, if not more, to express an opinion about BK

Im glad he is the person designing the ground as he has taken a genuine interest in the club and what it stands for, there are many people who would just chuck out a generic design with a few basic alterations to it.

I agree with him

 

danmeis @Meisarch

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Replying to @HarryWhosABlue and @Murphefc1878

Criticizing Bill Kenwright is ignorant. There is no Moshiri, no stadium, no Rooney without him. He loves this club, only a fool would argue

I don't get this tbh, Kenwright promised three new stadiums, none of which ever came to anything. Although i do agree that Meis should just probably just stick to designing the stadium and ignore the idiots

It is a bloody good offer. But, to play devils advocate (what? Me?! Never) - he's seeing all these players coming in on wages on par or even more than supposedly offered to him, a born-n-bred Evertonian who's been at the club for years.

 

I don't think money is the issue though, I think the years of abuse and OTT criticism he's gotten have made him seriously think about changing scenes. Trouble is, he'll get stick wherever he goes in England and I'd be surprised if he moved abroad.

 

Confident he'll stay and take part in the team to raise the Europa League trophy

This tbh. I think maybe he just needs a fresh start away from the city, that smack in the chops he got was not the first bit of trouble he has had out on the town, he seems to keep some slightly dodgy company at times. If he went to Spurs per say, it is very easy to get lost in somewhere like London and live a fairly normal life just because of the size of the place, hard to do that in Liverpool, one of the reasons i moved away was because i found it to be like living in Coronation Street where everyone knew everyone elses business

Rejected as Swansea want £50m, need to move on from this, money is starting to get way beyond what Gylfi is worth

Swansea are playing a dangerous game. They could end up keeping a player who no longer wants to be there. Of course he will be professional as he seems to be that way inclined but surely £35m is a top price for him.

 

I think the jim white interview messed this up myself.

£35m is still a bit too much when you think city only payed £40m for Bernardo Silva, and Silva is a far better player than Gylfi. Also jim white is starting to get on my nerves i do wish he would just shut up about Everton and let the club get on and do what they need to do, he always tries to claim he is breaking all these stories all the time when most of it is just rehashed jarg from twitter and other websites. He also goes on about how well connected he is but he only ever has the same people on all the time, typical shit talking journo on the wind up imo

 

Wasn't blaming the kids Si, remember an example of the sort of thing you're talking about when a parent went absolutely ape-shit at a game where his lad was a sub but still unused with ten minutes or so to go. It was a close game (Josh was also an unused sub incidentally) and this lad was actually pretty useless; so what does the coach do? Difficult. Guy took his son and his toys home and we never saw him again after expletive ridden rant.

 

I was myself probably guilty of being a "pushy parent" at times myself (which I obviously regret) but it was because Josh had much more talent than I ever did but not the confidence in himself to express it (that's my excuse anyway). We've talked about it many times and luckily he forgives me .

 

Not a new thing though, my dad ran a team that I played in and he was far harder on me than anyone else. Also when I started getting successful at table tennis when I was a bit older I had to ban him from coming to tournaments, he couldn't watch without giving "advice" even though he couldn't play the game to save his life.

 

Was a complex issue 40/50 years ago, even more so now.

This is why i have chosen to go into Sports Science rather than Sports Coaching, i know people going down the coaching route and some of them are regretting it already simply because after a session or a game or whatever, they will get a parent coming up to them asking why their kid only had 10 mins and not 15 mins.

aaron and j some good stuff there, makes me wonder what i can do as a parent to set my kids up for a fun experience with sport. thanks.

I think the best thing you can do is just to encourage them and NEVER try to live your own sporting misgivings(if you have any) through your children. nothing worse than parents who failed to make the grade themselves and then force their own kids to make up for it when you can clearly see that the kid is not that arsed.

 

That was exactly my first thought, engaging kids who'd rather be gaming.

There has been quite a lot recently about the high number of kids who have dropped out of sports due to pressure from parents or not getting a chance in the relevent team/sport they have chosen, there is also a serious lack of coaches for many sports and facilities here in the UK, it's no wonder they would play video games at times

cheers guys, some good stuff there.

I need to write an essay over the summer for uni on a current issue within youth sport, any ideas people? im struggling to think of much at the moment the only thing i have got is something to do with pushy parents. All suggestions are welcome. Thanks

I don't understand how they get away with it every single time! any other club would be getting the book thrown at them by now, this is the third thing now in the space of the year, such a horrible club.

Swerve this for me, got a poor goalscoring record

I'd like him back for defo- think he has a winning mentality, he knows how to win and would offer a huge wealth of experience to our younger players.

Our manager can offer much more than Rooney can when it comes to stuff like that, he was one of the greatest players the game has ever seen

Apparently lukaku wants a move to man United now...

 

Oh dear Rom.... what is going on?

Probably because Chelsea don't want him, i still reckon he will be here at the start of the season.

Some stuff around saying Martial wants to leave Man U and they will sell for the right price, he is good when played in his proper position

Fair enough, I just don't see the fuss about him from when I've watched him

Got to agree, he seems very good in the air but not much else, he is very slow from what i have noticed

There are a lot of players that we should never buy using Simons logic. And a lot of players that we never should have bought.

 

Williams? McCarthy? (we did get one amazing season from him) Barry? Schneiderlin? Lukaku? Neville? (off the top of my head without putting too much thought into it)

 

What constitutes as left overs by some (that perhaps dont fit into a system) might suit us perfect Simon. Barry being a great example. He might not play that much next season but he was exactly what we needed when we bought him. And he was unwanted at the time. Lukaku was not good enough for Chelsea. He has given us 60-80 goals since then. Neville wasnt good enough for Man U, he was our captain for years and played 240ish games for us.

 

Would you turn down Giroud? He might not be good enough for Arsenal this season.

There is no logic to it, i just don't see the point in buying Rooney thats all.

Schneiderlin supposedly wasn't good enough either. Nor Rom at Chelsea.

Schneiderlin didn't really get a chance to show what he can do at United, not really sure why they ever signed him tbh and Rom got turfed out of Chelsea by Jose because he missed that penalty in the Super Cup if you remember.

 

interesting, they see him as a replacement for Mahrez. I wonder where he will end up.

If we could sign the Mahrez that was playing 2 seasons ago, then id rather him than Sandro tbh, he was almost unstopable at times. Just last seasons version was the complete opposite, and im not sure he would come to us as Arsenal were very interested in him.