Newty82

Brilliant result. Well happy with our European results. Flying the flag for the City of Liverpool in Europe!!!

Stop running a marathon every game!!!

Definitely wishes.

Yep. Fair point. He maybe felt it was the right 'feeling' to announce it. Congrats Cotto...all the happiness to you and your man.

No way. Any links? That Riquelme is ace. Not sure you're allowed to mention Moutinho on this board...Bit of a sore point I think!!!

What's gay little fella? Blokes congratulating someone on having a baby???

What happened to that other lad with bags of potential etc? Was it George Green or something???

Haha...Top tip!

Superb! Congrats!

Definitely! No doubt about it!

Yep...always willing him on to have a blinder. Such is his position on the pitch, you know that if he has a goodun you're on for 3 points!

I often think the same about your reading skills. So I'm glad we're on the same page. just to simplify (!!!)...I get and fully understand where you are coming from in terms of sale, money etc. I just couldn't work out if you rated him or not. That's all. Thumbs up (is there a thumbs up smiley thingy???)

Just a couple of things...no 'love' is blinding me. Like you, I've been an Evertonian long enough to get used to players being sold and a footy fan long enough to know that every player has a price. I also have no 'take' on it as it is just a rumour, of which many fly around on a daily basis. All I've done is look at what we could do with the money. I don't think I have give a definitive 'yay' or 'nay'. How can you with rumours? The only definitive thing I'll say is it wouldn't be a January deal. I enjoy reading what others think and seeing others perspective. The only reason I'm 'speaking' to you on the subject is that I can't quite make out if you rate him or not. You seem quite definite that he won't kick on, but still expect a city or Chelsea to buy him if we don't push on? Why would they want him if he ain't all that? Surely they only want talent in their talent ridden squads? Whatever happens, so long as the club benefits, I'm ok with it.

Why won't he stay here 'forever'? If you don't think he's going to reach the next level then where else is he going to go? I'm guessing you mean 'down the way'?

All club managers are at it. The value of league football, the pressures on managers, the pile up of competitive matches etc all mean that managers need their players at the club. Not to mention the small point of who actually pays the player wages! On the flip side, the value if international football has been diluted by too many meaningless friendlies. And Keanes a pure hypocrite. Preaching the importance of international football to players yet he walked out on Ireland in the world cup?

Good points. So let's be consistent here and judge that other young athletic player that we have (not gonna say his name!!!) at 24 or so too. Seems only fair.

Pienaar looks far to slow these days. His decision making time seems to have increased and by the time he decides what to do he has lost the ball. I've seen him numerous times last season deciding what to do and next thing the ball has gone away from his feet! There's always a chance he'll make something happen but those days are diminishing.

Almost reminds me of someone, but his name escapes me...

Yep, my monies on the player and/or agent playing hardball. All these other guys have signed up, there's no way we'd let Kev contract run down by choice. It's not the choice of any club to allow it's better performers to run out of contract. It could be money related, champions league related or just wanting to know what other options are out there.

But that's the thing. You're basing Southamptons case on 11 games. What does that mean? Nothing. Come back at the end of the season with a final finishing place and then we'll say they have or haven't benefited. Right now, it doesn't matter much. Although Koeman deserves a clap for how he has handled things so far. I'm not saying we would or wouldn't benefit. I'm not daft enough to put all my eggs in one basket based on a rumour and with so many uncertainties. Bit it's ok to look at all possibilities isn't it? The Pro's and Cons. That's all I'm doing. You say it goes on all the time...so who else has sold a 'star' player for a top end fee (maybe that can be relative to the size of the club?) and gone from strength to strength? I guess Newcastle make a habit of buying cheap and selling at profit. Apart from Mike Ashley bank balance, all seems pretty static just now. I've no doubt we'll sell if we get a big enough offer. I reckon it will have to be a biggie. I don't think we'd collapse on the back of one player sale. But it's how that money is used that would make a difference.

Yeah, luckily he has a totally different personality!

Yeah. Can't really argue with that. We went from 17th to 4th? Then sunk to 11th but after that we went 6th, 5th, 5th...I guess it helped cement us as a top end team after over a decade of mostly bottom end finishes. As we know though, breaking to the next level will cost a hell of a lot more than 60 million. The games changed a lot in the last decade.

Sometimes it leaves you questioning their motivation. Stupid money for doing fuck all. It's frustrating that players get laid up with 'a knock'. Imagine if we had that luxury of skiving off work with 'a knock'? The country would be a right mess. Hence why non football followers despise the modern footballer.

Every player has a price. It's right that if you sell a 'star' player for a nice large amount, prices for replacements will inflate as other teams know you have the extra money and know that you've sold a star asset so need to appease the fans. If we sell him, it becomes a gamble on what we do next. And that's up to BK and RM. Do you buy one 'star' replacement? Or a few players and increase the size of the squad? Or do you buy a few potentials, buy back Finch Farm (as an example of reclaiming previously sold off assets), pay down debt and shape the club better off the field? There's people in place to make these decisions. Personally, last year when we were talking about Baines and Fellaini going to Utd, I was in favour of using the money to buy back Finch Farm, pay down debt and strengthen the club. That's changed a bit now as new TV money has given us all extra financial strength. Not sure that Southampton are an example in point just yet. They haven't sold one player for mega money and bought a load of others. They've sold a few players for good money and bought replacements for a bit less. If they break into the top 6 this season, then fine. But I'm not too excited after 11 games. Spurs and shite are examples. They both sold ONE player for big money and bought several others into the squad. It hasn't gone brilliantly for either of them. I think there is a point when you can bring in too many new players. Our strength in point is that the club's hierarchy insist that we no longer have to sell. So if anyone wants one of our 'star' players, they'll have to pay more than the 'going' rate. Like every debate on here, it's all hypothetical so not worrying about it too much yet.