java2001e Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 "A number of clubs - including Arsenal, Chelsea, Seville, Roma and Portsmouth - turned down the chance to take Javier Mascherano and Carlos Tevez as they were unwilling to agree to the terms of the deal. Tevez and Mascherano must play in every game and can be sold at any point for a profit that will go to the company that owns the players - Media Sports Investment. (The Independent)" the club has bought these players but doesnt have any ownership rights. that means west ham can be held to ransom in the future. they can be sold by their "owners" without west ham having any say in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Make your own bed dont you. BE watching this with Interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Is it true that the terms are they MUST play in every game? If so Ladbrokes online are offering a bet that Teves will start at the weekend for West Ham!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 This is a very strange case, like Pat I will keep an eye on this cos I think this will be big news during the next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 West Ham have denied they must play,and im sure that would breach rules to say they must play every game. and with the transfer window they couldnt be sold at any time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 (edited) The simple fact is though, if these terms are true, then West Ham have accepted these terms and done so willingly. They didnt have to take these players, but the club has seen it as an oppurtunity to raise their profile and maybe get them into the Champions League so that when these players leave they will still be able to attract top players. West Ham have taken advantage of the situation just as much as MSI. Edited September 5, 2006 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droobie Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 What did they 'pay' for this priviledge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 It was indisclosed, so read into that what you will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish_Reg Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 so if they have to play inm every single game, what happens if they are injured? and how can they sell them at any time? there is a thing vcalled the transfer window is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 so if they have to play inm every single game, what happens if they are injured?and how can they sell them at any time? there is a thing vcalled the transfer window is there? 48850[/snapback] Obviously they wont have to play if they are injured. And deals can be agreed outside of transfer windows but not actually completed. The whole thing is a farce for both parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I wonder what odds you would get for both of them being at West Ham in the new year transfer window. <_< ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I wonder what odds' we would get @ This phrase being a RegReaganism....so if they have to play in every single game, what happens if they are injured? .......... Reg U Idiot..>We all no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish_Reg Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 I wonder what odds' we would get @ This phrase being a RegReaganism....so if they have to play in every single game, what happens if they are injured?.......... Reg U Idiot..>We all no. 48938[/snapback] geez i was just acting stupid, no need to jump up and attack me. Reg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 C'mon Danish, fess up, do you live in St Helens?. If not I apologise, it's just that your posts have a remarkable resemblence to an old member who did not endear himself to a good many current members. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish_Reg Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 C'mon Danish, fess up, do you live in St Helens?. If not I apologise, it's just that your posts have a remarkable resemblence to an old member who did not endear himself to a good many current members. ATB Mac 49123[/snapback] no i dont live there nor do i live in merseyside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Tevez and Mashcerano are both on the bench today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willo Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Football is getting completely fooked up these days with all these agents and agencies . Tevez and Mascherano are both owned by a sporting agency and they have the rights to both players so where does that leave the rights of the clubs . I just read on tele-txt today that self proclaimed '' Super Agent '' Phil Zahavi has set up an agency to invest in some of the worlds best youth talent so they actually own shares in the players and apparently this is completly legal too ( surely not ) . Now this is all getting completly confusing for my feeble brain , does this mean that maybe 10 or 15 years down the line clubs will have to actually buy these players direct from the agencies rather than from the club leaving the club itself with absolutly no rights ???????? I'd hate to think that if AJ was owned by an agency they could just sell him off to another club without Evertons consent with no fee at all going to the Blues and i believe thats exactly what has happened at Corinthians with the 2 Argies . The future looks bleak if all this is true . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted September 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 (edited) we dont allow owners to have shares in more than one club. what if the same agency were to own players in two different clubs, liverpoo and Everton for example? Edited September 11, 2006 by java2001e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 You're right Willo http://www.football-rumours.com/news11_sep06_3.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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