toolio Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) i dont think we will make any signings today not even fernandes i am going to be 1 pissed off evertonian and backing up my story of not having faith in moyes he can fuck off for all i care typical everton letting 2 players go and signing no1 when we desperately need too anybody think the same as me Edited January 31, 2007 by toolio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I must admit i will be pretty pissed off if we don't bring anyone in, considering the current team situation, we know there's money there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 fuck off! we got money hahaha dont make me laugh BK has poketed it all but i too will be pissed if we dont get anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 we all know that we have money, i reckon that were holding onto it to take out loan signings into full signings. (Howard and if it ever goes through and hes any good Fernandes) Still think that we should have signed a left footed player, thought it was stupid getting shot off killer on deadline day with no obvious left footed replacements. I really thought we would have replaced him by now. But i guess im just being stupidly hopeful. WHEN WILL I LEARN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 never with those lot in control <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 we all know that we have money, i reckon that were holding onto it to take out loan signings into full signings. (Howard and if it ever goes through and hes any good Fernandes) Still think that we should have signed a left footed player, thought it was stupid getting shot off killer on deadline day with no obvious left footed replacements. I really thought we would have replaced him by now. But i guess im just being stupidly hopeful. WHEN WILL I LEARN wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 wrong well we do have some money! there is money from the killer deal and davies sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsaint Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 For this transfer i suppose the justification is gonna be...we released two players and we replaced with Fernades(loan) and we signed De Silva.....he the board will say "wanted this player and that player,but the price they are asking was crazy and not many right players we available and we are not prepared to pay crazy prices for these players!".... I hope i am wrong and we signed more than two of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsaint Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 refer to http://www.evertonfc.com/news/what-the-pap...st-january.html "Everton have effectively accused the Premier league of double standards after it continued to block the transfer of Manuel Fernandes from Benfica on the grounds that the player was to be joint - owned. ".... How pleasing it can get now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 fuck off! we got money hahaha dont make me laugh BK has poketed it all but i too will be pissed if we dont get anyone very much doubt BK would have pocketed it, we have massive debts that need paying! well we do have some money! there is money from the killer deal and davies sale agian, massive debts that need paying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 There is going to be a lot of discontent with the Everton fans if we fail to bring anyone in when we've sold 3 players (Killer included) and with two players out injured, one long term, without bringing anyone in. It's farcical in the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetrip Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 very much doubt BK would have pocketed it, we have massive debts that need paying!agian, massive debts that need paying! Our debts were consolidated some time ago and mortgaged against gate receipts for the next 30 years. That was our CE's main objective when he came here and we are now running at a profit - allbeit a small one. Money we have from transfers should be going back into re-strengthening the team. I believe our lack of transfer activity is partly due to the lack of quality available, partly due to the over-inflated European prices ( especially in the UK) but mainly down to Moyes indecisiveness. Remember Keith and Bill patting themselves on the back for getting players in early at the end of last season? That should be the standard not the exception. Now we into panic buys again - Andy Cole is the latest, fuck me its embarassing, whats next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 debts being consolidated does not mean they dont need paying mate! there is still replayments to be met, and we are not running at a profit. £10m loss last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 We just gotta be positive that we will bring sum1 in. i no its hard cos every1 is getting pissed of with moyes in transfer windows but us moanin on ere aint gunna make any differance is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 is anyone else getting very woried about this whole situation. We are supposed to be pushing for europe. and almost all the teasm around us have already bolstered their squauds. Spurs, Blackburn, Man City, Fulham, Middlesbough. I Know were 7th but were only 5 points off 13th place. Its all getting a bit much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickboy Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Im getting Déjà Vu. Will DM manage to get through another one of these pesky transfer windows without signing anyone? I have faith in his inability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Im getting Déjà Vu. Will DM manage to get through another one of these pesky transfer windows without signing anyone? I have faith in his inability. i dont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 i dont Think someone didn't read the post properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickboy Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Inability = sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 silly me :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Im getting Déjà Vu. Will DM manage to get through another one of these pesky transfer windows without signing anyone? I have faith in his inability. Nice one I can see it being a long night Someone PM St domingo, see if hes outside bellfield again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carper Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Doom,gloom moan gripe,we are a cheerfull lot aren´t we?Come on then who should we have bought?Who was for grabs at the right price for the quality that we so needed? I for one trust Moyes,if a player was there he really wanted he would have got him.But to buy for buying sake when the big sale starts in 4 months time would be foolish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Doom,gloom moan gripe,we are a cheerfull lot aren´t we?Come on then who should we have bought?Who was for grabs at the right price for the quality that we so needed? I for one trust Moyes,if a player was there he really wanted he would have got him.But to buy for buying sake when the big sale starts in 4 months time would be foolish. if we had the money available from the killer and davies sale then we could have put in a bid for Barton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 This is what James Beattie has to say about the transfer window: "The transfer window isn't really something we talk or give a lot of thought to as players, which probably tells you all you need to know. "As a professional footballer, you play for whoever wants you and is prepared to pay your wages. "If a club decides it no longer wants you and another comes in for you, you accept it and move on. "It sounds mercenary, but to an extent, you're a bit of a commodity to be bought and sold. In the end, you're like any other employee and you do your best for your employer. "I think it's certain that the transfer market won't be busy during the window. "Very few clubs have got any money to spend, so it will only be the clubs at the top and bottom ends of the table who spend for contrasting reasons." He said this in 2002 and his points are still valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 or bid the 2m asking for etherington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 ^^^ i'll drink to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeTino8 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 etho is junk we need to set our targets higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 we set our targets higher we will be spending money we dont have mate, i know where your coming from but lets face it we havent got the money atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 etho is junk we need to set our targets higher. name someone else for the same price who we could have got in this window! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 diop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 i agree, think we a;ready spoke on this one in another thread. Though i read that 5m was the asking price for diop. i just reckon that at 2m ethrington is a bargin but given the choice between the two at the same price id go with diop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carper Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Thats what I´m saying!Buying for the sake of it,Wecan´t afford to waste money on crap squad players!Or to pay over the odds for average players.Moyes wanted Barton,but Barton didn´t want to go,ask for the others they are dross! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Thats what I´m saying!Buying for the sake of it,Wecan´t afford to waste money on crap squad players!Or to pay over the odds for average players.Moyes wanted Barton,but Barton didn´t want to go,ask for the others they are dross! i don;t see the point of us "enquiring" for Barton, we should have put a firm bid on the table. We knew he had a 5.5m clause, at least put a bid in. its all well and good sniffing around a player but if we don't actually bid for them then we wont get them. Rooney said we wanted to stay until Man Utd put a bid in for him. of course Barton will say he wants to stay, if he said we wanted to leave (like he did before) he'd have the fans on hios back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carper Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 We had the money,Barton stated thet he had no intention of leaving city.He would not have come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 We had the money,Barton stated thet he had no intention of leaving city.He would not have come! yeah but we didn't make the bid, thats my point. its all well and good saying we have the money but we didn;t make the bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carper Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 You have a point.But I still believe City and Barton would have thrown back in our faces.There was no way he was leaving and he said so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Doom,gloom moan gripe,we are a cheerfull lot aren´t we?Come on then who should we have bought?Who was for grabs at the right price for the quality that we so needed? I for one trust Moyes,if a player was there he really wanted he would have got him.But to buy for buying sake when the big sale starts in 4 months time would be foolish. I agree if the players are not there that he wants them don't spend money for the sake of it however and a big however you don't sell players from an already small squad if you not got replacements signed sealed and delivered. As I have said on another topic didn't mind no new signings coming in but then don't release 'squad' players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 You have a point.But I still believe City and Barton would have thrown back in our faces.There was no way he was leaving and he said so. still we could have actually tried. We always seems to say we were going for someone, id just like to have some rejected bids too our name. At least we would have tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Doom,gloom moan gripe,we are a cheerfull lot aren´t we?Come on then who should we have bought?Who was for grabs at the right price for the quality that we so needed? I for one trust Moyes,if a player was there he really wanted he would have got him.But to buy for buying sake when the big sale starts in 4 months time would be foolish. The problem isnt really that we havnt bought anyone, that would have been absolutely fine if we hadnt let players go. We have now let 4 players go (Killa, Weir, Hughes and Davies) with only one coming in (Fernandes - waiting for clearance). Where is the logic in that when our squad had no depth to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 i agree, the squad was far too small as it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickboy Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I cant believe hes let hughes go aswell, hes lost the plot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 ^^yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetrip Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 debts being consolidated does not mean they dont need paying mate! there is still replayments to be met, and we are not running at a profit. £10m loss last year Operating profits before player trading were 3.1M which is up on the previous year, despite the fact we finished several places lower in the league. We have significantly improved on the commercial side and have reduced the net interest we were paying on our debts by mortgaging it against gate receipts. The repayments are manageable now and reported debt now stands at 21M a large improvement over the 45M which was cited 2 years ago. In respect to buying new players, we should be firmly looking at Big Bill. He obviously has no money or no wish to invest heavily, possibly both, either way it's not good. One thing we can count on is he won't be giving up his mantle without a struggle. The fact we now expect a top 10 finish shows how far we have come but until he goes we'll continue treading water with Moyes getting the best out of average players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I cant believe hes let hughes go aswell, hes lost the plot ................. Moysey reason for letting him go........................... "Mark was a very good lad to have around the place," added the manager. "But he wanted to be playing and we felt it was right for him to move on. "We wanted what was best for him and he has got a chance to get some experience. "A couple of clubs had come in but he felt Northampton was the best one. "We wish him all the best because he is a great lad and we enjoyed having him here." Has he not heard of letting players go out on loan.!! Idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickboy Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Sending him out on loan would have been dangerously close to common sense. Good to see DM managed to avoid that trap.........again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixiemac Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 dont just moan for the sake of it lads! hughsey was only a young lad and unless there exceptional like lescott you need experience and maturity to be a good center half.. if theres no more injuries between now and end of season we will cope well...lets face it there was no one really out there who we could have got. who was there out there that we should have got? let us no a cant think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Sending him out on loan would have been dangerously close to common sense.Good to see DM managed to avoid that trap.........again. Couldnt agree more I had just read that on the site myself The same thought was going through my head LOAN ! He tried to make out he did the lad a favour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 dont just moan for the sake of it lads! hughsey was only a young lad and unless there exceptional like lescott you need experience and maturity to be a good center half.. if theres no more injuries between now and end of season we will cope well...lets face it there was no one really out there who we could have got. who was there out there that we should have got? let us no a cant think... I think if we were ambitious enough why not have gone for upson ourselves all the players signing for west ham are making a huge mistake don't you think ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Well the ginga twat has come out with the old chestnut of 'we tried'. Fuck off Moyes, you can't come out with the same bullshit year after year. If there was no one there to bring in he shouldnt have let players go, a bit of common sense wouldnt go amiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 thing that makes me laugh is that come saturday and we win and play well we will all sing moyes's praises haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 (edited) He didnt sign Boughera cos the lad wanted to play at centre half but Moysey wanted him to play midfield, then to let any cover go when Weir had already gone is crazy. So if he had signed Bougherra for midfield, what about Da Silva And Fernandez. Two centre halfs have gone, so I'll replace them with three Midfielders. Moyseys reasoning absolutely baffles me, it really does. Edited February 1, 2007 by Licker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comeonblueboys Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I think it's obvious that Moyes never felt that Hughes would be good enough for the first team. He's got to be allowed to make that decision. If he actually rated him he would have let him go out on loan - he's put plenty of other players out on loan. Just cos he's saying nice things about him now he's left doesn't mean he actually rates him. He's hardly gonna say he's a load of shite and never would have made it at Everton - what would be the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickboy Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Good enough or not, he would have done & job for us & our squad is to small as it is. Its common bloody sense, dont sell people u cant replace. Its not bloody rocket science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 i put this post up on another thread but due to the topic of conversation it may be more apropriate here: i'm sick of this, the chairman has no money to fund the club, so he should not be there, he's just a kid in a sweet shop. It's about time we stopped moaning and unite as evertonians and take some sort of a stand against this idiot, and try by any means neccesary to get this man away from our club as soon as possible, and he can take that clueless ginger twat with him as well, it's going to be another quiet window and the same 5 year old excuses of "we looked but nothing was there" well they can both fuck off, because i've had enough. anyone agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 yep lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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