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#1 Lowensda

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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 08:46

Hearts

PAOK

BATE Borisov

Sigma Olomouc

FK Aktobe

Today Everton will find out their opposition to face in the qualifiers for the Europa league, so which team would people want to have? The easiest team on paper isnt ness the easiest outcome (when considering other factors like heat, travel etc)

Personaly i'd try to avoid BATE and PAOK.

I'd like Sigma Olomouc or Aktobe, then Hearts at a push.

Sigma Olomouc finished 4th in the czech league but havent won anything to date.
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 08:48

I'd actually quite like to play Hearts.

Agree with you though about wanting to avoid PAOK and BATE.
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 08:54

I hope we get a really tough draw because I actually want us to go out in the qualifiying round because there is no way this squad could handle all the extra games and I think our league form would suffer badly if we stay in
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 08:57

If you take a look at the performance of the scottish teams already in the competition, I think hearts could be a good draw....I am also tempted to go for PAOK as the greeks tend to be more predictable (also remember Larissa) unlike the eastern europeans (Metalist Kharkiv)...however, Im gonna go with Sigma
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 09:03

Is the draw live on Sky?
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 09:11

should be at 12.30?
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 09:18

I don't really care who we get tbh, we should be able to beat any of them.
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 09:21

I'm sure Sigma have just beaten Aberdeen 8-1 on aggregate. Although Aberdeen are not great, Sigma can't be that bad to post that sort fo score against them.

Would probably like to avoid PAOK.
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 09:26

I don't really care who we get tbh, we should be able to beat any of them.

True enough, but I am uncharacterisically hoping we get knocked out!
Like Duncanmckenzieismagic says, I seriously don't think that our squad as it is will be able to compete properly in too many competitions. :mellow:
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 09:31

I'm sure Sigma have just beaten Aberdeen 8-1 on aggregate. Although Aberdeen are not great, Sigma can't be that bad to post that sort fo score against them.

Would probably like to avoid PAOK.


Indeed they did so im changing my decision...I will instead go for PAOK (who scraped through vs Valerenga) and look forward to another wonder goal of team one-touch football as per the Larissa match....also we want to be away in the 1st leg....

Home or Away for the first leg folks????
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 09:35

I'm half hoping we go out but I hate losing!
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 09:41

I'm half hoping we go out but I hate losing!


Me too, but I want us to stay as competitive as possible in the prem, and if that means sacrificing cup runs then so be it.
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:10

I defy anyone "wanting us to go out" to be cheering the opposition at any stage during the tie, let alone extra time or pens if it came to that. You just won't be able to do it :) .

I'd like Toulouse.....because it's the only game where I could get a ticket for the away leg (although I'd be in with the French, so I'd have to keep my mouth shut :unsure: ).
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:12

I'm half hoping we go out but I hate losing!


I would like us to be in europa cup as long as poss, but also think we can win the league cup so Im torn....If I was forced into a decision, I would prefer to see us in europe...it would really p**s me off to see villa and fulham playing in europe come november....the league cup goes relatively unoticed until the semis....
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:21

Me too, but I want us to stay as competitive as possible in the prem, and if that means sacrificing cup runs then so be it.



I agree, not a big enough team, it's either a decent run in Europe or a decent one in the league
So now i feel like we're moving backwards compared to two seasons ago :/

The optimism I had 3 weeks ago for next season has almost dissapeared completly.
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:27

And another thing....the squad was no bigger in 07/08 and the players thrived on two games a week!

During the group stage we were unbeaten domestically....took seventeen points out of twenty-one in the league and knocked Luton and Wet Spam out of the Carling Cup :) .
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:28

I don't agree with some people on here who say that they want us to go out early, I really missed the extra European games last year. Also, we need to be getting good runs in Europe if we have any chance of attracting 'name' players. What's the point of struggling to qualify and then going out at the first opportunity? No thanks, I don't subscribe to that. I know we don't have a big squad, but still.
I'd think I'd like to say Hearts, simply because they'd be less of an unknown quantity. I'm sure we know more about Hearts, what they do, and who their key players are than any of the 'foreign' teams. However, as long as we go through then I'll be happy.
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:29

Our ambition last season (and every season) is to get as high as poss in the prem and hope we achieve Euro footy in the process. I hope we get to the final stages, i also hope we get to wembley for both Cup finals, and i hope we can push on for 4th in the league. I know its a massive ask if we dont bring extra bodies in, but there is no point in entering these comps if we dont want to be in them.
I will be screaming for them to go through in every game they play this season. COYB.
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:36

Holy shite....Villarreal are unseeded :o ! Prayer mats out :unsure: .

So are (according to UEFA) Galatasaray, Brugge, PSV, Lazio, Zenit, Villa, Valencia and Benfica!

Hearts are seeded :mellow: . How do they work that out? Mistakes surely?

http://www.uefa.com/...draw_basic.html
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:38

Nothing better than a great european night at goodison. How after that Fiorentina match and the atmosphere people want us out of europe I don't know! As MikeO said we weren't doing to shabby in the league last time either.
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:42

i agree with the wallwriter and bill etc, thats the positive attitude we need. Why try sp hard to get to this comp last year, for everyone to say ok id prefer if we went out. As someone said the squad wernt much bigger in 07, so lets do it again, and again, lets prove our critics wrong :)

Btw efcfanatic, that girl you have in your picture is ratehr nice haha ;)
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#22 EFCfanatic

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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:44

i agree with the wallwriter and bill etc, thats the positive attitude we need. Why try sp hard to get to this comp last year, for everyone to say ok id prefer if we went out. As someone said the squad wernt much bigger in 07, so lets do it again, and again, lets prove our critics wrong :)

Btw efcfanatic, that girl you have in your picture is ratehr nice haha ;)


Not bad i she? Sophie Howard. Wowza
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#23 EFCfanatic

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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:46

Holy shite....Villarreal are unseeded :o ! Prayer mats out :unsure: .

So are (according to UEFA) Galatasaray, Brugge, PSV, Lazio, Zenit, Villa, Valencia and Benfica!

Hearts are seeded :mellow: . How do they work that out? Mistakes surely?

http://www.uefa.com/...draw_basic.html


Its changed now again. This has got their coefficient http://www.xs4all.nl...seedel2009.html
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#24 iggy

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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:50

Wallwriter, Bill, Mike..........

I can see (and even agree to some extent) with what you are collectively saying.
It's not that I don't want to see EFC win everything, quite the opposite!

It's just that I honestly believe that any extended runs in cup competitions, and in particular the new look Europa League, will have a detrimental effect on our league position at the end of the season.

We managed to hang on towards the end of last season as the injury toll rose, and in general the way we played suffered. We have not strengthened the squad in terms of ability or numbers and unless the injury gods decide to smile on this year are likely to at least start the season playing some somewhat unattractive football, and at the same time put more pressure on an aleady small squad if we have to play the extra games.

I'm not normally this pessimistic before the season starts (at least not in recent years!) but I can honestly see a dip in our fortunes this year
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:51

Good draw in the CL play off's I see with Arsenal meeting Celtic!

Could it be a double prem v Scottish show down?!

If Celtic lose would I be right in thinking that would be them out of Europe completely? Same as happend to Rangers last year.
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:54

I would like us to be in europa cup as long as poss, but also think we can win the league cup so Im torn....If I was forced into a decision, I would prefer to see us in europe...it would really p**s me off to see villa and fulham playing in europe come november....the league cup goes relatively unoticed until the semis....



I couldnt give a toss about the league cup I want us to go out in the first hurdle of that as well.

It is going to be difficult enough to cope in the league and FA Cup with our squad
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#27 duncanmckenzieismagic

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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 10:58

i agree with the wallwriter and bill etc, thats the positive attitude we need. Why try sp hard to get to this comp last year, for everyone to say ok id prefer if we went out. As someone said the squad wernt much bigger in 07, so lets do it again, and again, lets prove our critics wrong :)

Btw efcfanatic, that girl you have in your picture is ratehr nice haha ;)



Because when we spent all that time and effort last season qualifiying I was under the missaprehension that we would kick on and sign some decent players not reduce the size of the squad even further

I would love us to do well in all competitions but we simply havent got the squad to do it
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 11:22

The draw is usually on Eurosport (just after Sky Sports in channel listings)
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 11:41

how did hearts get zagreb....?
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 11:41

sigma it is, everton home leg first
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 11:42

...and PAOK vs herenveen....wasn't we split into groups???
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 11:42

http://www.sigmafotbal.cz/

http://en.wikipedia....K_Sigma_Olomouc

All Czech/Slovakian players bar a couple of Brazilians.

I hope Aberdeen are really shite this season, or we could have a game on our hands!
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 11:43

decent draw, glad we're home first - hopefully put the tie to bed early doors. Oh no, this is Everton in Europe!!
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 11:51

decent draw, glad we're home first - hopefully put the tie to bed early doors. Oh no, this is Everton in Europe!!



If you want us to go through were better off away first personally I will be happy if we go out so would have prefered a nice trip to Genoa or somewhere first!
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 11:51

pf I think it was split into groups but we are a seed while the teams we could have played weren't. It's not that any of those teams could play each other, it's that any of our group of seeds could play any of those teams.

I think anyway!
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 11:52

Yeah but it's probably better we don't travel so early in the season, let the players get a bit of rhythm.
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 11:53

could never want us to go out even though we have a small squad i just couldnt do it. id always want us to go through as this is summat we could win! id take us winning this and finishing 10th
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 11:59

I see they knocked Aberdeen out 8-1 on aggregate with a 5-1 win in Scotland and 3-0 win at home.

only a 12,000 capacity stadium so not many will be travelling.
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 12:06

Does anyone know how the draw was set up..... I was watching it on Eurosport & we could only play one of four unseeded teams...... what a scam.... not that it really matters I guess
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Posted 07 Aug 2009 - 12:07

my bad....completely forgot what other teams were in our group.... :blink: :lol: :(
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