johnh

Let's also see what the governments advice was prior to the referendum. (David Cameron - a Remainer' - speaking at Chatham House in November 2015.) 'It will be the final decision. When the British people speak, their voice will be respected - not ignored. If we vote to leave, then we will leave. There will not be another renegotiation and no other referendum.' '

Well, Mike. if you are equating the referendum with the EU election, that both must be democratic, then it follows that any action to usurp the referendum must be undemocratic. Which we all know it is.

That's why the EU are desperate for their own army.

Yes, democratically elected, that makes his impartiality even worse.

BBC text says 11 seconds.

Agree with this. I had to laugh out loud when I read Bercow's 'constitutional outrage' comment. The Speaker's role is supposed to be impartial/neutral but he's tried every trick in the book to head off Brexit.

Her indoors said she wants some peace and quiet while she's cooking, so I took the batteries out of the smoke alarm.

Pete, have a Google and find out what the sterling exchange rate to the US Dollar was when we joined the Common Market.

I also said (re Holystove) 'I don't agree with all he says'.

Pete, your post is the wrong way round. The EU have been intransigent (don't know where 'fair' comes into it). Our politicians were only guilty of being useless negotiators. May was only interested in coming up with a deal which satisfied both Leavers and Remainers, an impossible objective. Don't know how to post a 'link', but if you go on the internet and Google 'Sir Peter Marshal Briefings for Brexit.' He is a Remain voter who has changed his mind based on the EU's approach to the UK (A bit like Palfy's). He says it far better than I can. Its worth a read.

I agree on the Holystove issue. Even though I don't agree with all he says, his posts are always well thought out and valuable, because he does have an insight into how everything works in the EU. If UK goods exported to the EU are delayed because of technical issues, then those issues will have to be resolved. Which they will be in time. However, if UK goods are delayed due to the EU playing silly beggars, then there will be a massive boycott of EU goods into the UK. (at least 52%). I don't think this will ever happen with so many EU economies on the brink of recession.

Mike, my local team, Maidenhead United, played in the very first FA Cup competition to be played in 1871. In the first round, they had a local derby against Marlow and won 2 - 0. I think Royal Engineers won it that season. Thought about going to watch them, at home, this afternoon against Bromley, too hot! 34C. Incidentally, looking at the Bromley team, there are names that never appeared on a team sheet when I played: Kizzi, Okoye, Klass, Mekki and Hackett-Fairchild.

Unbelievable.

I thought the ref was right to give the penalty to Liverpool for the pull on Salah's shirt. Shirt pulling in the penalty area should be punished more often. However, it is interesting how easily the top six clubs seem to get the penalty decisions. I also thought it was a clear penalty for us against Villa.

In his younger days my eldest son worked in a bookies. Just need to have a word with him to make sure I haven't been overly generous with the odds.

Odds have drifted out to 15 to 8.

One goal in three games says it all. All the signs were there last season but we ignored them.

First half 63% possession not a single shot on target. If we don't bring a half decent striker in in the January window its mid-table for us at best. I can't believe Silva keeps picking DCL to start. We will be playing for 0 - 0 draws every game but hoping to pinch a 1 - 0 win.

BBC text says it was harder for DCL to miss than score.

After quarter of an hour - over 70% possession but not a shot on target and only one not on target.

Well said Palfy. The problem with the EU is that there are two completely separate elements. The unelected elite in Brussels and member states. Recessions don't half concentrate minds. Brussels will not be affected and will continue with their ideology. Member states are in the real world and recession will hit hard, not only on trade but on banking systems and the euro. There is strong opinion in the financial world that the euro will not survive another recession. There will inevitably be conflict between Brussels and member states. We just need to be well clear of it when it all kicks off.

Well we only need EU goods until we source them from new trade deals. With some EU countries on the verge of recession, eg Germany, Italy. any disruption to their trade will concentrate minds - in member states if not in Brussels. I don't think the EU's financial centre is going to make many waves, particularly when several EU banks are in danger of folding, particularly Deutche (sp) Bank, which is already on life-support. On your second point, you obviously don't understand 'irony'.

Just an example as to why it wont last very long. Also, we know that the kid's will take priority. I don't mind going on a diet for a couple of months.

Just a thought. If all the products supplied by the EU are delayed then their payments will be delayed. If the delay causes perishable products to go past their sell-by date, then they wont get paid at all. Probably wont bother Brussels but I think it will bother member states.

Was coming on to post exactly that. When was that rule introduced? Never knew a sub could actually bat. Anderson's injury probably cost us the first test.