Palfy

Sorry to hear about your bad news mate hope you all get through unscathed. But you’re right it’s definitely on the increase and at a time when we are looking at lifting restrictions, 3 days to Armageddon if the government doesn’t do a U turn and accept scientific advice and review the risks.

I wasn’t comparing players against Bernard as it was his column I was highlighting what a waste of money he’s been, and drain on the clubs FFP stats. But just to add to your comparison between him and Iwobi Bernard made 18 appearances 20/21 and Iwobi 40 so value for money even with fees falls in Iwobi’s direction, I would expect if I looked at minutes played it would even go further in Iwobi’s favour, but like I said my post was that Bernard has been an expensive mistake unless we can recoup his wages.

How many have we got left from Walsh’s time as DoF clogging up the wages.

Agreed but he is expensive cover one of the highest paid in the club, he may have been a free agent but his millions a year have proven very costly for very little return unless we can get 15-20 million to cover his wages.

I wonder if Rafas interview went something like this, Brands “right Rafa you fat twat I’m buying the players I want, I’m also deciding what style of football we play, and like Silva if it all goes wrong you’re taking the rap for it any problems with that fat boy” Rafa “none at all Mr Brands when do I start”. That’s a lot closer to some peoples take on it than mine.

There’s a reason for this Usmanov and Moshiri are looking for instant success, and they are trying to buy it and not earn it or work for it.

Then who has the final say if not the manager it can’t be the DoF because he’s not the team, are we now introducing a Marxist philosophy on buying players in that if the collective doesn’t agree then it doesn’t happen, someone said this is going to take 10 years to sort out, I would say more like 20 or 30 if we implement your ideals, Brands didn’t want Rafa neither did Kenwright we got Rafa why if Brands is the decision maker on recruitment players and now style of football.

Correction that isn’t quite what happened, we firstly went for Hojberg and Gabriel they were who Ancelotti wanted not what was offered to him as an option, Ancelotti was so confident he had an agreement with them both that when it fell through he was incensed enough to blame somebody for leaking the deals which alerted Arsenal and Spurs, if they would have gone through I doubt we would have signed Godfrey and Doucoure, well definitely not Doucoure Godfrey would possibly have still come because he wasn’t signed as a starter but by Brands as a player to bring on for the future, I will always give credit to Silva for bringing Doucoure to the attention of Brands, although that’s immaterial Brands did suggest Doucoure to Ancelotti and Ancelotti trusted his advice, as Ancelotti said Doucoure was a player he never new. Rafa will work with Brands of course but he will not be dictated by him on player recruitment for the first team, and now the latest belief style of play.

You boy’s are so over thinking this it’s becoming farcical, now we are in the realms of Brands not only picks the players he also has a say in the style of play and the manager has to fit in with that, forgive me but that is hilarious

He’s saying all the right things but then he would they all do when they come in, I’m not going to be swayed either way by what he has to say, it’s a results based industry not a popularity contest.

If we did that we wouldn’t have much left.

I agree that most clubs work with a DoF and that they work with the managers to recruit the players or type of players they want, my argument with your first statement was that you want to separate recruitment from the managers, that’s just not going to happen, the managers who aren’t just there for a pay packet and who are proven will want final say on players and back room staff, are you telling me Pep Klopp Mouirinho Ancelotti don’t get final say on who’s signed for the first team or they shouldn’t?

You will not find a manager worth having under those ideals, that doesn’t happen in any club that I know of that recruitment decisions are kept separate from the managers, I think from memory the closest a club who tried to run in that direction was PSG with DoF Leonardo, but that was squashed by Pochitino who threatened to leave and was backed by the owners. You cannot take the most crucial role of player recruitment out of the managers hands, to avoid the scenario you have mentioned you make sure you employ the right manager.

. The same with Carlo he signed players he wanted bar Doucoure and Godfrey who were suggested to him by Brands after the 2 Carlo wanted joined Spurs and Arsenal, so that’s great from Brands but Carlo would had to have given the green light before they were signed, and it wouldn’t have happened if Carlo got the players he was originally after. Brands hasn’t had the last shout or say on any of the managers since he joined, he did want to this time round and was overruled by the owners money man, a tough gig for him but the money he is on must lesson the pain or I thought he would have left by now if he was expecting more control and not getting it.

Are we back on this subject again, let me tell you this there will be no first team players coming to Everton without Rafa’s say so, he won’t be told I’ve bought you this and that now get on with it, he will build his team with the players he wants, he hasn’t come here to pick up a wage he’s come here to build his team in his image. Honestly I know of no decent managers who would have it any other way.

Yes please

We have to afford him the same respect and opportunities as we have the managers who came before him, and if he doesn’t succeed he will go the same way as others that seems to be a guarantee with this board. I wanted him after Koeman was sacked he wasn’t my first choice this time round I put him at number 2 of 5 choices. I’ve got a good feeling about this appointment, not because the football will be attacking but we are use to that anyway, more because like Moyes he will set boundaries and won’t suffer fools, he should get us going in the right direction on and off the pitch. And if not adios amigo

54 years through thick and thin, good times and bad, I can completely understand what you and Mark are saying, I’ve said it a thousand times, but I’m still here supporting the team I love, and hope you guys will be next season and every season after.

Britain does have a problem with racism, the world has a problem with racism, these problems are not the fault of football these problems aren’t the fault of football fans, these individuals who perpetrate the violence and racial abuse latched on to football and the team’s they follow as a medium to indulge in their sick way of life not the other way around, football most definitely didn’t look for them. I’m a football fan I’m an English fan so I get offended when people use the term the English fans are this and that, in a general way that encompasses English fans in general, for me and millions like me we don’t acknowledge these low life’s as fans whether for their country or club and any nationality. Yes football needs expose these morons as does every part of society, but please don’t call them football fans they have a completely different agenda to what a true football fan is, and by calling them football fans you in someways give them a legitimacy to what they are doing as if they belong to something that is there for decent people.

I feel for everyone in the squad I’m proud of what the manager and players have achieved, first final for 55 years what’s not to be proud of if you’re English, a relatively young team which can only get better, penalties are a lottery and not a real indication of a team’s performance.

I don’t call those stupid run up penalties as confidences I call it cocky, even Jorghinio got his just deserts.

Fucking gutted.

Great pen McGuire

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