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I don’t believe they can dictate to us if we pay the release clause in full. Perhaps if they have Cornet agree to come to Everton only if we pay that extra bit or something. Again though, a release clause is only logical if you have to pay it up front to trigger it. Otherwise every club in the world would be in for Lionel Messi at 2m a year for 100 years or whatever. Helps Burnley that they appear to have at least a couple of suitors here. We shall see.

Ha. In my greatest fantasies we win in the last day to take 4th. Trying to take my lead from our transfer business with Some pragmatism

If a player isn’t worth his release clause of course he could go for less. That isn’t really relevant here. Sure, it depends on the contract but it doesn’t make sense for a release clause to not mean a large chunk of the fee or the whole fee. Otherwise a club could just do what I described and offer the selling club a fraction of the release clause over many years. That would be horrible. We would burn down goodison if we were forced to sell Richarlison for a Nominal yearly fee and couldn’t reinvest

I’m curious how it works when multiple teams are willing to pay a release clause. Is it the player’s decision? Is it a bidding war with a deadline?

Certainly. It’s just very unlikely a club would ever do that, particularly one in Burnley’s situation.

It has to be the full fee unless otherwise negotiated. Imagine Richie having a 50m release cause and Spurs saying we will pay you 7m for 7 years or something. It would seriously damage the selling club. Seems smart by Burnley. We want the money now. If you can’t pay now then it’s going to cost you more in the long run. We have an option to avoid it by just paying the fee. If we are unable to then makes sense we’d get charged a premium. I would guess we would settle on a fee less than 25m but that assumes another club won’t give them a better offer which may be just to pay the release clause in total

Makes sense to me. Otherwise you could just pay 1m a year for 18 years or something

Very well could be true he prefers to go there. I just meant I don’t think it’s about personal terms with him.

Forced is being thrown around a lot in this conversation. I agree Gana should not have been put to a decision (though it is possible his contract mandates he wears whatever kit the club decides on) but he did still have a choice. Wear the kit or sit the game. He simply chose the latter.

From what I understood the hold you had less to do with Cornet than the structure of the deal.

He’s had easily the best goal scoring record of the 3 so it’s probably based on that.

No reason to believe he’d embellish anything, especially after the disappointment of last season.

Hopefully just fan hysteria. If so though you’d have to say a lack of durability is becoming a trait for him.

Let’s test your theory. Man, I don’t think Everton have any chance at Europe this season.

Depends what it is. I’m sure clubs have relationships with doctors they trust. If it’s something specific ( knee, ankle, whatever) there will be people who are at the top of that field and I’m sure a team would want to send their player there. There is a doctor in the States who is famous for doing “Tommy John” surgery for baseball pitchers. Basically his whole business.

I expect the team has its preferred doctors. In the U.S. there are specific sports doctors thought to be the best in various areas and teams will send their players across the country to be seen by them if need be

If the plan would be to play him at striker then I suppose so but I’m not sure that’s his position anyhow. Also if DCL is just missing one week you wouldn’t make a decision based on that. We shall see

Well not all 10 yard passes are the same, obviously. A 10 yard ball you slip in to unlock the defense and time a run from a teammate is of course much more difficult than passing it across the back to a defender. Gana did far more of the latter when he was here. Which is fine, he wasn’t in there to play that final 1/3 ball. Just a reminder that while numbers don’t lie they can be misinterpreted (not suggesting you are).

I think the reason those are difficult is because it’s really not a technical thing. Any professional footballer can play a 10 yard pass. It’s having the brain to see the space and the proper angle and the ambition to try something that might give the ball away. It’s why I prefer players like Deulofeu in attacking positions. He gave it away a lot but several times a game he’d create chances with his creativity. It only takes one or two moments a game to make it worth it. We struggled badly last year to create chances against a set defense. Hopefully guys like McNeil and Dele will improve us in that respect.

I take your point about floaty, cross-field balls but in general a shorter pass is going to be more accurate. Most defenders and players like Gana are going to rack up high accuracy numbers making short, risk free passes to each other. Just as players will have a lower shooting % if they take them from 25 yards out.

I’d be curious if there are any stats on average length of pass. It doesn’t surprise me that Gana’s accuracy is very high given that many of his passes with us would have been passing it back and forth to our defenders or a 5 yard pass to another midfielder. Worth noting that the list is mostly players who make short, safe passes. I suppose Gomes and Doucoure are exceptions a bit but they still do a lot of those short triangle type passes to defenders and other mids as they look to connect our play.

I think that much time would is very unlikely. It would take injuries to DCL and us bringing in nobody and beating out Rondon. More likely is he gets 4-5 games worth of time. A good loan should be more beneficial than that, particularly as going out into the non-Everton world also has benefits

Always some tough calculus to determine if a player who is better but plays less has more value than someone who plays more at a bit lower level.

It was probably because he rarely if ever had a season where he played 90 minutes for 30+ games. If you break it down by minutes though and give him those full seasons his average in a long career was like 13/6 per year.

Bit unfair to crouch. Per 90 he was 1 in 3 with over 100 league goals and 65 assists. Pretty damn good production.