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I know he’s said he’s more involved creatively than on American Gods, at least.

From what I understand Neil was less involved in those in terms of the control he had. Sandman is much more difficult to adapt so there is some condensing and character changes that went on but I think they did a good job bringing such eclectic material to life. I was pleased and it seems most critics and fans have been as well.

A good adaptation if you’re a fan of the graphic novel. Hard to even complain about the changes as they are largely coming from Gaiman himself.

Lukaku was a powerhouse who could get the ball 30 yards from goal and bully his way to a chance. He isn’t an amazing footballer but he had some attributes that few others do. Maybe that’s something Simms can aspire to but you have to be really effective there and in the air to make up for not being great at controlling a ball.

He will probably improve with time. But once we start talking about 45m+ that’s a very good player. Might take years for him to get there, if ever. For a guy who isn’t that great defensively and doesn’t cross it that well or hold it up he needs a lot of end product

I think they can play a similar role especially if Gueye comes. Iwobi being ahead of Dele is my point.

Surprising. Vote of confidence in Iwobi if true.

For all his promise, right now he’s not very productive. He is also not a great defensive or hold up player at this point. He might be more exciting than a lot of players we might bring in but I don’t think it would be difficult to find that production.

Yeah this doesn’t make much sense for Gordon right now in terms of his development. Maybe he thinks he’s walking into Chelsea’s starting 11 for some reason but that isn’t the case. He could get this deal in a year or two if he progresses for us and play far more football in the meantime.

This seems like the ultimate non update as it just reports what we all assumed was the case for the last few weeks.

Agree here though Barkley was farther advanced in his career (and went for far less). Shows you how rare it is to get a consistent 50m valued footballer.

The reality is there are many players at Gordon’s current level. The number that make it to being 50m+ type players is just a fraction of those. He has promise, no doubt, but the odds of that being very good business for us are pretty high imo. Given our financial situation and that replacements would likely be better than he is currently I’d be happy to sell.

If we don’t sell for that price I would think it has a little more to do with finding a replacement this window.

No worries. I enjoy a good discussion. We agree that he’s not it, even at his best. Serviceable 3rd striker is the best we can hope for.

Well it was 3 years ago, and for whatever the Chinese League is he performed well there also. I agree he’s not been good enough but he’s still our best CF option at the moment

We can take it to another thread if need be. My point, which was obvious, is both that he cost essentially nothing so this “waste of money” stuff isn’t relevant and that he has had a decent record in the premier league before he left. He might be past it now but it’s because he’s about to be 33, not because he’s never known how to play.

He went to China because he was 29 and presumably that’s where he could get paid the best. He also was transferred there for just shy of 20m. Worth noting that he scored 11 league goals before he left. The Rondon move made all the sense in the world. We had effectively no money that window. Makes sense to bring in a player Rafa knew well who had good experience in the league. Also, waste of money? He was a free transfer who is on 20k a week, making him one of the lowest paid senior players at Everton. He is incredibly cheap so there is no real risk to us from that perspective. He may be past it now but it’s just not true to say he’s terrible at football or somehow costing us significant money. He was brought in as a placeholder at a time we couldn’t spend.

Rondon is not a terrible footballer he’s just old and seemingly always out of shape. He still might be a better hold up player than DCL and I’d trust him with a shot from outside the box before Dom. You can see how he was a reasonably productive player years ago. That said he needs to be 3rd choice at best for us.

Perhaps it was the quality of the joke to blame . I get it, I was just making the point that as poor as he’s been for us it was obvious he’s a better option than Gordon.

Well at the time of the loan we had DCL healthy and looking good and Rondon as temporary cover until we brought in another striker. Bit unreasonable to risk getting Simms a high quality loan because maybe DCL gets hurt slipping in the shower or whatever before we bring that other striker in. Just one of those things. In retrospect woulda been nice to have him for these couple games but hindsight is always 20/20.

He’s a better CF than Gordon, I think that is obvious.

I think we forget because of his lack of fitness etc.. last year that he was a serviceable premier league player for years. He’s probably a better technical footballer than Dom, he’s definitely a better CF than Gordon. If he’s fit enough to start he really does have to.

The idea of sone of those in loan is attractive for us this season. Hard to know what sort of deal is possible.

Pulisic is considerably better than Gordon imo, and cost more than the numbers mentioned here. Which is what makes it an odd one from Chelsea unless they are simply that rich where they are fine with him being a fringe player who may or may not ever be a regular contributor.

Haha. I think he sometimes other clubs are moronic. Maybe City would give up De Bruyne? He is getting up there.